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The pedal 2 light coming on indicates that it is active. Don't know about the screen changing - did you knock a knob?

 

What did you expect to happen? Expression 2 by default doesn't do anything - have you assigned it to control something? I use it as a master volume so I have a volume last in the chain with Exp 2 set to control volume

Honestly I didn't know what to expect, but I did forget to assign the pedal to a function, LOL. I guess when I saw the screen changing and light flashing when the pedal was moved I didn't like that and just unplugged it and went to playing instead of fooling around with it. I'm going to try it  again later, thanks for all your help with this Rewolf48. I'll let you know what happens.

_{If I'm missing something, chime in please.}

   _{Ok, I tried the Electro Harmonix Expression Pedal with the TRS cable into the HD 500 "Pedal 2" input. The only response I got was the screen would change from the "signal flow" screen to the "Amp deep edit " screen, and the pedal 2 light would go on and off respectively. Other than that nothing happened. Nothing was damaged.}

   _{The only reason I tried this was out of curiosity. I think the HD 500 looks for a different kind of signal. The EX-1 Pedal from Line 6 has a potentiometer in it, it's a very simple device and it works good. Electro Harmonix Expression Pedal works good also just in a different application.}

The EHX Expression Pedal Output is as follows according their instructions. Is there anything I'm missing? It seems as though this device will not work directly with the HD 500.

Part of the instructions: The link to the full page is here.

 

OUTPUT Jack: TRS = EXP, TS = CV

The type of cable inserted into the OUTPUT jack determines the output state of the EXPRESSION pedal. When a TRS cable (the cable supplied with the EHX EXPRESSION pedal) is plugged into the OUTPUT jack, the pedal works as a standard expression pedal with the following connections: TIP = potentiometer wiper or output signal, RING = Toe position and SLEEVE = Heel position. This is the standard polarity for the TRS plug of an expression pedal that many in the industry follow including all EHX products as well as Boss®/Roland®, Moog®, Nord® etc. The REVERSE button does not change the TRS plug polarity, it only changes the direction of the output sweep.

 

 

If you plug a standard †instrument cable, with mono TS plug, into the EXPRESSION pedal’s OUTPUT jack, the EXPRESSION pedal output will automatically change over to Control-Voltage (CV) mode. In CV mode you can use the EXPRESSION pedal as a CV source. The maximum range in CV mode is 0V to 5V. Adjusting the RANGE control will move the minimum voltage from 0V up to approximately 4.5V, the maximum voltage of 5V does not change.

Not a problem, hope everything works out.

Might need to press undo before the next recording.

Hadn't thought about the phone out jack.... Ill give that a try. Mic the amp I think would introduce too many unwanted sounds. Doing this in my home.

I hear ya on the background noise while micing. Do you have an empty closet or room? That can help out a lot with the background noise issue, sometimes, LOL

   I've have the HD 500, X3 Pro, UX2 and like all of them. As for settings I try everything I can. Obviously there's always a standard for connecting these devices, but you really got to try for yourself. I have good results with just plugging in at the guitar input, turning the Drive up 'till it starts to distort then back it off slightly, Tone Stack to 12 O'clock, Master Volume to 12-9 O'clock, the Volume to around12 O'clock. Then with the modeler I turn the Master to 9-full open, then adjust the volume and then set up effects.

   Always start out with the master volume on the modeler in off position and work your way up. With everything off I plug in the left mono on the modeler into the guitar input on the amp, plug in the guitar into the guitar input on the modeler, make sure the masters are turned all the way down on both the modeler and the amp, then turn the amp on and then plug in the modeler. Everything is running now so turn the Master on the amp up to 12-9 O'clock then turn slowly turn the Master up on the modeler (I test plucking the 6th string with the guitar volume and tone knobs all the way up) 'till I get the sound I want.

   This is just how I do it, I never unintentional noise If you get what I mean. If you make a change while setting up a tone in the modeler and your worried it might be too loud jut turn the master down and work back up on the modeler. I hardly touch the amp adjustments other than the drive after the initial set-up. Oh, I'm in an Apartment so I never want unintentional noise, lest I become that evil guitar player in the community, LOL.

ADDED: I use the "Combo Front" setting in the modeler settings and check and make sure the "Lows and Highs" are set to FLAT. When I use XLR into the Mic on the amp I use Studio Direct. When using either the AUX or Mic (XLR) inputs I always turn the volume's down (in the amp settings "Inputs Level button") and work my way up. The little switch on top the HD 500 that says 1/4" out set to AMP.

Things in bold have been updated since original posting.

I think your going to need to get a 1/8 to XLR. Have you tried to turn the Volume (in the settings) for the AUX input to a higher level? Exactly which Mic are you using?

I'm no expert here, but now that you've tried it and know it doesn't work it's probably 'cause S/PDF just isn't compatible with anything other than a S/PDF input/output. I don't think you hurt anything by trying. I've tried hook-up's that didn't work too and just move on 'till I find what works. Just don't stop asking questions when you're not sure, you'll learn more that way.

You ould use the headphones out from the Spider Jam into the UX2 monitor in, I think? There are other options I'm sure.

Have you tried micing the cab using the UX2? Works great.

for quite some time I used an old AKG K141 monitor 600 ohms impedance, but after years of use the earpads have been a lot worn out and there is a buzz in one of the channels ..

shame because I really liked its sound a lot ..

so I started looking for detailed information and opinions on various other headphones and given the good past experience with AKG I bought an AKG K 271 MKII 55 ohms which should give an hi fidelty very flat frequency response, I tried it with the HD500 and I did not like it at all, nothing to do with my previous old headset .. then I gave it back and I bought an AKG K240 MK2 55 ohms, which is much more similar sonically to my old headset with the difference that given the low impedance has more volume, I'm still using it, but I still have a slight preference for the old AKG K141 ..

 

at the end for me:

1) if the headset is good, the impedance does not have so much importance, if it is low, just use the appropriate output volume

2) POD is not a hi-fi, and perhaps it's more important that I like the sound of the headset coupled with the device rather than having a painstaking fidelity to each possible frequency

3) listening through headphones even with the best headphones in the world will never be completely identical to the live sound, so if I have to play through headphones, it is better that at least I like its sound

i tested a number of different headphones:

Grado SR80 - 32 ohms

Sennheiser 280HD Pro - 64 ohms

Beyerdynamic DT880 - 600 ohms

Sennheiser - 600HD - 300 ohms

 

I've had the Grado and the Senn 280HD way before i got the POD HD desktop. bought the Beyer, and the Senn 600 just to see if there was an improvement in sound quality with the increased ohms.

I couldn't distinguish any sound quality improvement, other than the inherent improvement with more expensive equipment.

the DT880, and 600HD did require more volume output from the POD.

In the end, i returned the 2 and stuck with the Grado.

Probably going to sell the 280HD. Just because i find the Grado has a better sound quality.

 

Hope this helps

Thanks for all that input, much appreciated. I think I have really good idea of what to expect when I finally pick out headphones.

Don't be overly concerned about impedance ratings for casual listening. Trust your ears. I've used both low and high impedance headphones with my Pod HD devices. There is definitely an improvement in sound quality with the higher impedance headphones. Is it worth the extra cost? That's a personal decision - to me it was, but having said that my low impedance phones served me well for a long time with my X3. But the improved sound quality of the HD exposed a big difference between the sound quality of my monitors and that of my headphones. So I upgraded.

 

I won't be overly concerned as I'm trying to have fun with this stuff, and I surely am having fun learning how to play guitar and use sound equipment. As I am a mechanic/machinist I have learned to trust my ears and feel for vibration, as these are most of the time enemy number 1, LOL. I think it's going be worth the extra cost to look into and get higher impedance phones. I see there are some very high (like 400- 600 Ohm) ear phones out there, but am wondering if over 250 ohm is too high and might require an amplifier with this equipment.

 

Another factor to consider is whether you use headphones to develop your tones/presets. The higher quality headphones you use, the less tweaking will be required to get good gig-level tones.

 

Sounds like another piece of good advice.

 

YMMV.

 

 

You may also want to look at Amplified Parts.

Wow! I'm way off! Mine are only 63 ohms!!!!

My ears are still pretty good, but may be a little off after years and constant exposure to loud unmusical environments such as "Machine Shops", "Auto Shops", and  "Motorcycle Shops". That's not to mention all the "high power rifles and revolvers", "chain saws", and "lawnmowers and weedwackers" I've used, LOL. That's just what comes to mind at this moment.

I think your explanation makes perfect sense.

 

Here's a suggestion:

- connect an mp3 player to the cd/mp3 input of your HD500 and find a song that illustrates the issue you are having - something that sounds good through the Bose CineMate but bad through your headphones. For best results, you could even use a recording from your HD500 and get it on your mp3 player.

- bring your HD500, the mp3 player, and your troublesome headphones to your local audio store that sells a range of headphones.

- experiment with different headphones using your setup until you find a pair that you like and can afford.

That's a good suggestion, Thanks Again.

_{Are you running RCA from the spider Jam into the 1/4" line inputs on the back of the UX2? I would think "S/PDF" signal is lower than a "Line". Might work though but you may get a low volume. Might be better to run into the instrument jack in front.}

In the past, the official "line" has been that they do not support headphones with less than 200 ohms.

 

Many people use lower impedance phones, but they will be loud, and don't ask for help if you have any problems.

 

I use a Beyerdynamic DT770 250 ohm pair. I like them, but some argue their accuracy. I'm a little disappointed in their durability, given the $200 price tag, since the cable connection at the phones has broken after about 2 years. (Duct tape to the rescue.) I've used lots of other phones though and haven't broken my HD400 with them, FWIW.

Thank You, that sounds like a good recommendation. I've been doing a lot of searching for headphones in the higher impedance ranges. The Original Bose AE's just seem too light duty for the signal their getting. They work great with the Spider Jam alone and iPods, iPads and iPhones.

I've only monitored through the Spider Jam, Bose CineMate, and my tones sound great so I'm leaning toward the headphones needing to be higher impedance. I think what I'm doing is trying to keep the noise down in my environment by keeping the amp turned down to a comfortable level. By doing this I'm losing some of the nuances of sound I like. To compensate for that loss I crank up the X3 Pro to get those nuances to come through the amp causing the output to the headphones to be too high thus causing headphone clipping. Hope I made some sense to you, I'm trying, LOL. I guess I'm trying to find that happy balance.

Thanks Silverhead,

  You've helped me out in past, I read many of your posts to other peoples issues, which answered questions I didn't even know how to ask, lol. My question about (sound differences from the recording) was probably vague 'cause of my inexperience . I believe you answered that as well though. Good job, Thanks Much.

I was using Bose the Original AE headphones and was getting a lot of clipping so to speak. These work fine with my Spider Jam but I have a harder time getting them to work right with the X3 Pro and HD 500. Is there something I'm missing when I'm making adjustments to the levels?

Which Headphones does Line 6 recommend with the HD Series? I read somewhere they should be 250 Ohm impedance. Is this right? Do headphones sound different than the recording? Can the same phones be used on the X3 Pro?

Which Headphones does Line 6 recommend with the X3 Pro? I read somewhere they should be 250 Ohm impedance. Is this right? Do headphones sound different than the recording? Can the same phones be used on the HD Pods?

You could try setting the Guitar Boost (in the "Guitar Gate/Boost" settings screen) to "ON" also.