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How long before they come out with a Helix 1500 amp (like the Firehawk)? Stay tuned to NAMM 2017! Haha

Jim

I'm curious how you guys listen to your Amplifi device in particular the FX100 and the Table Top.

 

I personally use mine in two ways (1) with headphone and (2) through my Mesa Boogie Express plugged into the effects loop. I also find that most of the amp models are just not all that usable through the amp, or any amp for that matter that I've tried. I think there is some loss in the Line 6 modeling when it is influenced through amp circuitry.

 

Headphones on the other hand make the Line 6 Table Top/FX100/Bean....sound awesome. I think this is also largely true with the HD500 with the exception of when its played into a DT25.

 

Anyway, when you look at the Amplifi amps, those all use stereo full range speakers and so are headphones. It seems to me that the Table Top/FX100 would probably sound pretty awesome when played into a stereo full range powered speaker like a DJ type rig.

 

What do you guys think? What do you use?

 

Thanks!!

I have followed many of these forums as I once owned and sold a FH floor modeler. From reading the forums one really good solution is to output any TT or floor modeler through FRFR bi amped speaker systems such as the Line 6 StageSource Lt2 or higher. Friedman also makes an expensive wedge FRFR as well. The YouTube videos of Paul Hindmarsh demoing the StageSource LT with his Pod 500 were exceptionally cool! If you're rich, get the Firehawk 1500 which works as an amp or FRFR source (monitor). Others can weigh in here!

Jim

Hi. I've only seen the 75 for $399. It has 1 8" and 4 stereo speakers while the smaller model (30) has just 4 2.25" stereo spkrs. The 75 is louder and if you see it for $300, get it! Esp if space is not an issue

Hi. I'm new to some of these products. I have an M9 and briefly tried the FH floor modeler. It appears there are many similarities with these products. I get that Helix is very high end but I'm not sure what makes the Firehawk better than the Amplifi. And how does the fx100 differ from Amplifi TT? I'm assuming the Firehawk 1500 is the very big brother of the Amplifi150? Is the Helix the big brother of the Pod hd500x? Where can you find articles comparing all this stuff? I've checked the Line6 web site. I don't see the comparisons. Thx

Jim

The M series of modelers saves parameter tweaks in the way Drake described. Then if you want to copy the patch to the same or different location, it works just like the FH. A huge advantage of the FH (having used both systems) is the "My Tones" feature on the remote ap!

Jim

Sure! do these help?

 

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Sorry. Can't read the jack labels in either pic

Using all 3. Guitar input routes to center speakers, monitor inputs route to coaxial stereo speakers for wet-dry-wet implementation.

Would you mind sending a photo of these exact connections? Thanks.

Jim

Question for the Colonel: it appears you have found so many uses for the 1500 with all those output options, but you do not use the built in FH FX effects or programming options because you rely on your Helix for that. Why not just get a powered monitor you can drive with the Helix and maybe a mixer for other instruments? Probably save 20 pounds in weight! It seems like a waste to not use the FH chip set or maybe you do?! Just curious because Line 6 developed this thing as a programmable modeler/amp combo that just happens to also feature FRFH capability. Thanks. I always enjoy reading your remarks and advice and I don't own any of those devices!

Jim

Well... the Verdict is in....... I return it.

 

LOVE LOVE the Helix ...but the Firehawk isn't for me

Wow! Interesting. What did you not like about it if I may ask? I returned the FH modeler (resold) it because I thought it didn't sound right at live gigs with higher volume coming out of my Fender HRD. How do you use the Helix during live gigs? What amp set up etc? Thx!

Jim

To do stereo... you will need (2) atomic wedges... and they are 46lb each.... and if your rig is having a problem...... the CLR's will not get you thru the gig! now.... if i had endless about of cash.... I would have bought (2) CLR no question... but as of now... I'm going to give this 1500 a shot.... unless Line 6 totally failed on the FRFR concept ....the 1500 is going to be perfect for my needs playing live!

I'd love to hear from you after you get up and running with the new setup. Let me know how the amp performs with your axe on stage.

Jim

I was thinking of using the Atomic in the way you are suggesting because, at 63 lbs the FH1500 is a bit heavy. Also, I get that it has the Firehawk built in so you would need nothing other than the optional Foot controller. But if you're using your Axe, Helix orAtomic Amplifire then having all those extra features seems to be redundant (and they do add to all that weight)! Having the WDW feature is pretty cool if you understand how to use it. I was unhappy with the FHmodeler as a live gig solution running out of a standard Fender amp but I do miss the remote app!! The Amplifire lets you connect to your desktop computer via USB and is very highly rated. Any one else out there have some thoughts on this? Thx.

Jim

Hey guys..... I'm in the market for a true FRFR system.... is the Firehawk 1500 a TRUE FRFR system with the benefits of stereo or W/D/W ?

 

I'm current running the Helix and loving it... but I'm looking at the Atomic CLR as a FRFR for on stage so here is my questions

 

Thanks,

Steve

Hi Steve. I've just started to read a bit about the Atomic CLR to use with a modeler. Do you know what all the differences are (Active vs Passive and size differences)? Their web site is not too informative. And where can you buy their stuff!?

Jim

That still beats the 90 year old drunks and floozies I play for at the yacht club circuit!! But they tip and keep asking for Chuck Berry songs!

Jim

Thanks guys, but all of my patches were self created and a few that I used as is on the FH that I tweaked. The volume thing was strange! I thought I had it under control at the last gig but people were saying the volume rolled on and off in waves! Going back to being a tube geek with 2 or 3 trusty pedals! Thanks and enjoy!!

Jim

I'm dumping the Firehawk but I'll probably just stick with my M9 or possibly upgrade to M13. I love the power and tone of my HRD too much! Thx!

To all of you FH friends: Hasta La Vista! I just put my 5-month old FHFX on the Reverb.com listing! My good old Fender HRD sounded so much better with my old M9 set up in a little a/b test I did today. It blew the FH away for power, grit, tone the works. I got tired of people telling me my live tone was muddy or weak since I started using the FH! So, if anyone knows anyone interested in buy a slightly used FH, go to reverb.com and check out. Perhaps with a different output device, someone wil enjoy it as much as you all do! I will miss that remote app! But, no more volume issues for me!

Jim

To all of you FH friends: Hasta La Vista! I just put my 5-month old FHFX on the Reverb.com listing! My good old Fender HRD sounded so much better with my old M9 set up in a little a/b test I did today. It blew the FH away for power, grit, tone the works. I got tired of people telling me my live tone was muddy or weak since I started using the FH! So, if anyone knows anyone interested in buy a slightly used FH, go to reverb.com and check out. Perhaps with a different output device, someone wil enjoy it as much as you all do! I will miss that remote app!

Jim

One useful way to utilize the FH1500 processing with a floor modeler would be to do the post fx in the FH1500- effect trails when patch switching!

Why don't you shoot a video of this process? Many of us have no experience with this!! Especially me. Thx!

Jim

You're a riot Colonel!!

This may be a silly question or one for a line 6 tech: If these guys are using their Helix with the FH 1500, shouldn't you also be able to use a regular FH floor modeler with the FH 1500 as your pseudo FBV? Or would their be incompatibilities? Also, if you did this, would you just be using the 1500 as a powered speaker/monitor? I.e. how would you connect to it? Or would the floor modeler FH just be designated to being an overqualified foot pedal board underling to the 1500? I'm trying to come up with a scenario for getting the 1500 and not losing a bundle on the Floor modeler I just bought 3 months ago! Maybe Line 6 could help out with this?

Jim

Yes, we would loose a few knobs - that would would not make enough of a difference in price or weight. We thought about it, believe me. Since we need the Sharc architecture anyway for the speaker processing there is not enough of a difference.

So what can you do for us jerks who bought the floor modeler 3 months ago but now need the FH 1500?

Jim

Huge: @ 22" x 11.5" x 3" high

Since many of us bought Firehawks and Helixes as floorboards already, why not make a Bluetooth 1500 without the digital brain built in! Maybe it would help to drop a few pounds

Jim

If the Amplifire is an amp modeler, how do you use it with your Fender amp? Isn't that like having two pre amps competing with each other or do you plug into the power amp jack in the back of the Fender (as I do) and bypass your preamp? I don't know anything about how the amplifire works.

Jim

You just saved me a bundle! So thank you for that!! I'm also interested in the Firehawk 1500! But I will check out the amplifire as well. What Fender do you have?

Jim