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  1. I'm not sure why you would use another modeler such as the Helix with the FH 1500! The latter is the modeler built into a digital amp, right? It has ample power and all of the modeling stuff that the regular FH modeler has, except you have your output solution. The only other thing you would need is the FBV to switch patches and banks, etc. You also have the benefit of the remote app which is what I love about the regular FH. It just sounds terrible out of a standard guitar amp in a live setting! Even with all the fine suggestions that other users have offered such as turning off the cabs, using the 4CM, using the FX Loop in the chain, adjusting EQ, adjusting the three volume knobs for gigging volume, and all the rest; it is not satisfactory!! Tones are very muddy or MIA! None of this would be an issue for a guitar jockey with unlimited $$$ and a monstrously large man cave to store all this stuff we buy and never use! LOL!!

    Jim

  2. OK Now you guys are driving me crazy! I've been bitching and moaning about how I can't output my FH floor modeler to an amp, but the FH1500 is the supposed solution? I just bought the FH a month ago! Had I known all this stuff earlier, I would have opted for the FH1500! So typical. McB, you especially have been so helpful on the FH forum. Did you switch to the 1500 as well? Excuse me while I curl up into fetal position, thumb in mouth!

    Jim

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  3. My initial impression of the Friedman ASM in a live setting was that it really provided a clear sound and I could easily hear myself without blasting out the stage. We mic'd it as well for the house and other monitors. I was going to try and place it in front of me or to the side but I chickened out and used it behind me. Still, set in a wedge position it sounded very good and was very clear. You can see in the pic where I put it.

     

    However I am not sure about the Firehawk. I think it may have to go, not sure. Maybe I wasn't used to it but it's sort of hard to tap top row switches and not change presets. Also I think I hit both the up and down bank buttons at the same time and ended up in some live edit mode. That sucked. While all that is my issue I also wasn't blown away by the tones that I was so clearly hearing. Oddly I was happier with clean tones over dirty. My tones sounded "honky" and also "crispy." I will tweak some more but I'm looking at some other options. If the AX8 were available now I bet I'd just grab that lol. I think I need to spend more time at higher volume with it as I think there have to be great tones here, because I was able to get them at home with with ASM 12, but that was at "home" volume without other instruments in the mix.

  4. But did you turn on the FX loop on the remote app? The Firehawk sees the orange as a device in the fx loop chain. Also, if you are running the newest firmware, you should move the FX loop (like a device) in front of the "amp" in the app's signal chain and make sure it is turned on. Play with those amp out and line out little buttons near the jacks on back of the FH. You may need to change your output.

    Jim

  5. I'm really struggling to understand what the "white" volume is doing? Is the guitar pushing the amp harder when it's turned up?

    I'd assumed it balanced the guitar with mp3 playback by altering the volume of the mp3 but seems I'm wrong

    I played with this tonight at rehearsal and there appears to be a duplication of services for the white (guitar) and red (device) volume controls. They both effect all patches and stay set where you put them. But I did a test to see if there was a true volume difference if they were both cranked or if just one of them is cranked in a live amp setting (not with playback music). There was no difference in volume, but, raising just the white gave a cleaner tone than raising both. Raising just the red did not seem to effect the tone. Last wknd at an outdoor gig, I raised the red and the pink. Not the white. Big mistake. The pink channel volume totally changed my tones in a bad way, very muddy. I think from now on I will attempt to increase the volume with white or combo of white and red. Leave pink alone.

    Jim

  6. Would you mind sending a screen shot of your settings for the delay, reverb etc. I'd love to try that. Or, I guess you could publish it to the cloud for all of us to steal! But let me know if you do and tell us the title your giving it! You da man!!

    Jim

  7. Are you plugging into the fx return on the amp or the guitar input?

    Also, which output setting are you using? Amp or line?

    You should select no cab when using the firehawk into a regular guitar amp , it will make it sound less muddy and more direct

    I'm plugging into the power amp jack in the back of the amp not the guitar input. I'll check to see if I've selected amp or line can't remember. One setting is mute so I would only be using the setting that responds. I'll try playing with the no cab setting. When I first played with this I did not notice a huge difference except for the patches with giant metal amps with 4x12 cabs! Thank you again!!

    Jim

  8. I used the firehawk for everything , amps and effects so no I wasn't using 4cm , I just had a cable from the firehawk output (L mono) into the fx return jack on the mustang (that uses the power amp part of the mustang only so the mustang preamp doesn't affect tone )

    I liked the mustang but decided to go for a FRFR speaker set up instead because I wanted to run direct to the pa , therefore I need to monitor the sound with something that sounds similar to a PA, which for me was a stagesource LT3, also I record direct a fair bit and I wanted the patches to cross over easier

    There is no shortcut to creating really good patches, you simply must dial them in using the gear you use live and at the same volume you play live, that is the mistake most people make with modellers (myself included)

    So if you get a mustang and get it sounding great , it won't sound great when you plug into a different amp or speaker or if you record direct, you need to create different patches for different applications even though you're aiming for the same sound

    The most likely reason your patches sounded bad at the gig is because you created them at low volume, when you amplify the same patch to loud levels the bass and treble overpowers the mids, it needs to be eq'd differently

    Aye, Aye Aye! Now I'm wondering if my amp (Fender HRD) will actually be fine live if I redo the Patches at "gigging volume," first! I was under this assumption that the Red master volume knob took care of this. It does not, apparently. I do not go through a PA at the gigs, nor do I mic the amp. We mostly play small venues and I use an amp the old school way, behind me for stage volume and for the audience. Half the time the other band mates cannot hear each other! But, going through the PA washed away the vocals completely. Before I run out and buy another amp or powered speaker, I better try your idea. You are a great resource on these forums!! I saw back in August that you almost ditched your FH. What made you decide to keep it? Thx!

    Jim

  9. You can get the same tones for live use that you get at low volumes, you just have to program your patches at gigging volume otherwise your just guessing your eq settings and reverb levels in particular

    I tried setting the patches as you suggested at the gig before we played to "Gigging Volume" but I did not like the response I got from the amp (in 1 CM). I plugged into the power amp and I noticed a significant loss of volume and power. I didn't notice this at home because I was practicing at much lower volumes. All the volume settings (Red, Wht and Pink) were set to 9 o'clock at home. I tried first just raising the Red at the gig, but it was not effective so I raised the pink as well. This gave me better volume, but muddied the tone significantly! Once again, I may have to switch to another output option such as the ASM-12 as Rayneman and others seem to think so highly of it. More $$$$! 

    Jim

  10. Yeah when I used the mustang I used the firehawk amps with the cab sim off (no cab)

    With the cab sim on you effectively have 2 cabs in your signal chain , the modelled cab and the real cab of the mustang , in some cases it can sound OK but generally the sound is much more clear and direct with cab sim off

     

    I use the lt3 in reference pa mode, as with all FRFR speakers it takes a bit of eq tweaking to get it right but the pay off is that everything sounds that bit clearer and more defined , clean sounds with delay are a definite highlight, still not 100% happy with my distorted sounds but I'm pretty sure I'll get there soon

    When you did use the mustang with cab sims off in the FH were you using 4CM method and the Mustang as an FX Loop on the app? I'm asking this same question in dozens of different forums because I'm not understanding how this device is to be used for live gigs with a standard guitar amp. The M9 was just a stomp box modeler that allowed you to use a std guitar amp. The FH has all these beautiful built in amps and cabs that make my Fender HRD a second sister. And I agree with Rayneman, at low practice volumes the thing sounds great. But I was a bit disappointed with the live gig sound at a large outdoor venue. I'm considering 2 options: the Mustang IV or the Friedman ASM-12. I'm assuming I will get those crystal clear cleans and lux delays etc with good volume and headroom live if I switch. Any thoughts? Thx

    Jim

  11. Thanks for that tip Rayne. I was pretty happy with most FH tones but the HRD lacked juice when used as a powered speaker (1 cable to power amp setting only). If I were to go straight from my guitar to the standard guitar input on the HRD I can get arena volumes quickly. If I stay with the FH I'm going to have to try the ASM-12. You think the volume as an amp substitute are good enough for most live gigs? I'm not mic ing out to a PA or monitor at this point! Thx.

    Jim

  12. My initial impression of the Friedman ASM in a live setting was that it really provided a clear sound and I could easily hear myself without blasting out the stage. We mic'd it as well for the house and other monitors. I was going to try and place it in front of me or to the side but I chickened out and used it behind me. Still, set in a wedge position it sounded very good and was very clear. You can see in the pic where I put it.

     

    However I am not sure about the Firehawk. I think it may have to go, not sure. Maybe I wasn't used to it but it's sort of hard to tap top row switches and not change presets. Also I think I hit both the up and down bank buttons at the same time and ended up in some live edit mode. That sucked. While all that is my issue I also wasn't blown away by the tones that I was so clearly hearing. Oddly I was happier with clean tones over dirty. My tones sounded "honky" and also "crispy." I will tweak some more but I'm looking at some other options. If the AX8 were available now I bet I'd just grab that lol. I think I need to spend more time at higher volume with it as I think there have to be great tones here, because I was able to get them at home with with ASM 12, but that was at "home" volume without other instruments in the mix.

  13. I'm a bit confused as well. McB are you saying that when you use the Mustang you use none of the FH amps or you do use them, but with cabs turned off? Please clarify the Mustang scenario. Also, are you using the lt3 as an amp. If so how. Not just as a monitor? Thx!

    Jim

  14. Message for Rayneman; wondering how your experience has been with the ASM. I was a tad disappointed with the one cable to to my HRD. The FH was great but the amp was lacking juice in this huge outdoor venue in Malibu. Maybe because I did not have the advantage of using the pre amp of the HRD only that lonely 12 inch powered speaker.

    Jim

  15. So will you be usung ASM-12 in place of an amp set up. In looking through reviews about Friedman it seemed people were only using it as a stage monitor but went through a house PA system for the audience. Is that your plan as well. I also have a Fender HRD combo and will try the one cable method into the Fender's power amp. But I am not connecting to a PA. Just the back line, but I'm curious about using a system like yours in place of an amp. Thx!

    Jim

  16. Yes. I realized that too about certain patches and some are just louder or fuller despite that pink setting being equal. But that's ok. I want some patches to deliver more and will go to them for certain songs or solos. The red volume will vary depending on the room or venue. Thanks McB

    Jim

  17. Why exactly do the three volumes do? Red, white and pink? Are you folks saying that the red vol changes the tone of the preset? I was hoping I could level all 3 say at 9 o'clock then raise only the red on a gig if I needed more volume for all of my patches without effecting tone or drive. Am I wrong to assume this?

    Jim

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