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  1. In my personal experience I depend greatly on using live powered speakers (Yamaha DXR12) to give me confidence in my stage sound at home. I personally go direct to the board and we have DXR12's both as our FOH speakers and a mix of DXR12's and QSC CP8's for stage monitors so it tends to work out quite well. All that being said, in the past I have had to depend on my BeyerDynamic DT770 headphones to work on my stuff at home when I had one of my DXR12's in for repairs, and it wasn't bad. That may be because I'm pretty used to knowing how to get the sound I want however because I have had my Helix fo six years, so I don't know how well that would work from a newbie quite honestly. I just thought I'd throw that out there.
  2. The Helix has no problem powering headphones. The open back 300 Ohm HD600 are awesome! I use them interchangeably with a closed back pair of 250 Ohm BD DT770 Pro. Drop also sells their Sennheiser OEM special built version of the HD6xx which are purported to be sonically identical to the HD600. Between the HD650 vs the HD600 (or HD6XX) I prefer the more neutral sound of the HD600. YMMV. Overall, it all comes down to what you prefer and the type of material you like.
  3. It sounds to me like you're struggling with a couple of different issues. The first involves a lack of familiarity with different output devices and the other with technical familiarity with the fundamentals of how to use the facilities of the Helix for dialing in tones. The second one is easily addressed by simply spending some time on YouTube watching some of Jason Sadites excellent "Dialing In" series of videos where you can learn all the ins and outs of EQ, amps models, cabinet and mic placement, etc. That will jumpstart your knowledge and give you some confidence on how to address getting the sound you want out of the Helix. https://www.youtube.com/c/JasonSadites/playlists None of that knowledge will do you any good without first understanding the different type of output devices and what will work best for your situation. A good pair of studio monitors can be more than sufficient for using the Helix as are a good set of headphones. The issues come into play in understanding what would be "pro" gear versus "consumer" gear. I'm not familiar with the IK Multimedia line, but their reputation tends to be more in the consumer market than in the pro market. The pro market studio monitors that tend to be popular among Helix users would be brands like JBL, Yamaha, Presonus, etc. The difference is in getting a flat response that would be used for evaluating playback in a recording studio versus simply playing music for your enjoyment. The same would be doubly true with headphones many of which color the sounds to make them sound better to a consumer versus studio use for evaluating studio production. The more popular brand among Helix uses tend to be the Beyerdynamic DT770 pro in the 80ohm or higher range. The real key for you at this point might be a good understanding of the different TYPE of devices such as headphones, studio monitors and powered PA speakers and their pro's and con's for your situation. Studio monitors and PA speakers are similar but are designed for different uses. Studio monitors are designed specifically to be used in a smaller setting such as a studio or office area and work best when both the speaker and the listener are positioned correctly and precisely. Powered PA speakers aren't as reliant on proper positioning and are designed to cover larger areas evenly and consistently. As mentioned previously the Headrush tends to be quite popular but it's popularity is also based to some degree on it's bargain price. As in most things you get what you pay for and that's VERY true when it comes to powered speakers. You can end up spending a LOT of money in this area, but I think you can also get some very professional quality speakers nowadays at a reasonable price. Some of the favorites in this area are the Electro Voice ZLX series, the QSC CP series, and the Yamaha DBR series.
  4. @themetallikid, As a Helix owner, when Helix Native goes on 30% Discount Sale -- which it does several times a year -- you can get Helix Native for $69!! The HX Stomp is a really great piece of gear! Not only is it compact, as rd2rk replied, it's great and easy to use on the desktop. Moreover, it provides a Helix grade AI! So consider allocating the approx $100 you'd spend on a Focusrite Solo (or other AI) towards an HX Stomp. And, the $30 savings on Helix Native, would offset, a bit, the cost for an HX Stomp. And, HX Stomp's headphone out easily drives BeyerDynamic DT770 Pro 250 ohm headsets to DSP levels far higher than my Dell XPS 15 Laptop. ;) YMMV.
  5. If anyone is interested I came across the following thread, the first post gives some good info on the Beyer line: https://www.head-fi.org/threads/guide-sonic-differences-between-dt770-dt990-models-more.513393/
  6. I too have the DT770 Pro 250 Ohm version. I have not encountered any issues with insufficient level from my Helix Floor, Helix Stomp, Dell XPS15 Laptop, nor stereo systems. Come to think of it, though I've never used them with any of my Focusrite Interfaces. YMMV. I have found that the the Beyer DT770Pro are position sensitive as to how I have the cans positioned on my ears. A very slight shift forward or aft, alters the way I hear the high end. I have not encountered this phenomena of any of the other brands of headphones I have.
  7. I thought this question had been answered on here previously, but it still keeps on cropping up. For what should be the definitive reply to this, I will refer you to the comment posted by Digital Igloo (Eric Klein - Line 6 Chief Product Designer) in this old thread. Plus here is an article which specifically mentions the 3 different impedances of the DT770 headphones. https://www.headphonesty.com/2019/04/headphone-impedance-demystified/ Hope this helps/makes sense.
  8. Hi All I've settled on the DT770 for guitar playing through Helix Native (Scarlet Solo). There are a couple of threads on here from a few years back asking for recommendations on the preferred impedance plus info scattered across various threads. Good info in those threads but a lot of it is comments from people only owning one impedance. I have also done a lot of reading and watched youtube reviews so have a sense of the strengths and weaknesses of each, but that's in the context of general music listening and other non guitar uses. Anyone able to compare both impedances and recommend which is best for guitar playing - home practice? BTW - I have an Objective O2 headphone if needed to run the 250 ohm version. Thanks
  9. Thanks all for the info. Yeah the rabbit hole of headphones and the audiophile world is something I want to avoid. And honestly I wouldn't even hear the difference unless it's back to back critical listening. DT770 is probably the better option for me. Not overly expensive and is an industry standard for a reason. The way I'm looking at it now is that I prefer not to spend too much on a closed backed design. I have never had closed back headphones and want to experiment with them. So the DT770 is a good, and a cheaper, option for now, and if like the Beyer sound and choose to spend more than I can look at the DT1990 for the open back design (or is the 1990 classed more as semi??).
  10. Pretty much around here and in the general Helix modeling world the DT770 is pretty much a key workhorse. There's lots of reasons for that but it's mostly because they are consistent and with very little coloration which makes them easy to integrate with studio speakers and live speakers accurately. Here's a good comparative review of both: https://www.rtings.com/headphones/tools/compare/beyerdynamic-dt-770-pro-vs-beyerdynamic-dt-1770-pro/440/714
  11. Hi All I'm looking for a pair of headphones to play through either Helix Native (Focusrite Scarlett) and HX Stomp. This is just for quite practice home playing so no mixing. I have a line on pair of new Beyerdynamic DT1770 at a good price but it will still be more than double what I would pay for a set of DT770 250ohm. I don;t need closed backs so another option is a set of DT1990. Anyone using the DT1770 have any comments how they work with modellers? Better yet anyone able to compare them to the DT770 and feel they are a worthy upgrade? Alternatively anyone using the DT1990 and can comment in how they compare with DT1770? I'd also be interested any comments on general music listening
  12. Hello. I was wondering if any of you have experienced any issues with the headphone output of the Helix LT or Helix Floor? I have an Helix LT connected as an audio interface to my Windows 10 laptop. I only use headphones and like to jam along with YouTube and guitar pro and recently when I listen to a preset through my headphones connected to the output jack of my Helix LT, the panning/volume is all wonky and is not balanced with the right side noticeably louder than the left. The issue is across all my patches including factory and user). The issue seems to be volume related, if you crank up the amp or add a distortion block it seems to pan harder to the right and becomes very off putting. If you turn the volume knob below 12 o’clock the panning balances better, turn the volume knob up to 3 o’clock or to full then panning is almost hard right and I can hardly hear anything from the left as if you’ve have duff headphones. As a temporary work around I have to pan the output block at the end the chain by at least 30% to the left to balance the sound. I've tried different 1/4 inch adapters and different headphones, I have some in ear monitors and a pair of Beyerdynamic DT770 pro 250 ohm and the issue persists. I have even sought a second opinion from my wife who agrees there is Definitely a panning/volume issue. There is no problems when listening to music and videos from YouTube etc. It only affects my guitar patches. Also, this seemingly started happening out of nowhere. I do not recall making any changes to global settings, but perhaps that is where the problem is? I am updated to firmware version 2.92 and have been since it was released. Out of desperation I have completed a factory reset and even rolled back the firmware to 2.8 and reinstalled 2.92 with no joy and I am now worried it may be a hardware issue. Everything has been working fine until now. If anybody could help me figure this out, I would really appreciate it! Thank you.
  13. I'm currently in the middle of testing the Hx Stomp for myself. Let me start with stating that the amp models are very accurate. I've tested several ones against Fractal amp models and some real amps. The amps are not the issue. I've also compared the cab models against those of my BluGuitar BluBox (an excellent IR speaker emulator) and found that the Hx Stomp cabs lack air (high frequency content) and overly pronounce certain frequencies depending on the mics one uses. It's pretty hard to get rid of that baked in mic sound. That said: in a mix that might actually be the sound you're after. Also be aware of the Fletcher Munson Effect (listening at different volumes to the same source material sounds dramatically different): Dull and mid heavy might at low volumes might sound just right at stage volumes. My conclusions have been gathered used Neuman KH120A studio monitors and Beyerdynamics DT770 headphones.
  14. Regarding the impedance - I recently switched from ATH m40x to Beyerdynamic DT770 80ohm. When it comes to volume, the only thing I did is changed my physical volume dial setting from 1/3 to a bit above 1/2. Considering the fact that the presets themselves have a lot of volume available on tap, I'm pretty confident that you can drive 250ohm cans with Helix. As a matter of fact, many people swear by 250ohm DT770s for Helix. After reading a few articles I went for the 80ohm version myself and I gotta tell you - they slay the ATHs I used before.
  15. I used ATH M40x since I started playing my Helix a few years back. They were okay, but I kinda grew tired of the sound and I was curious about the Beyerdynamic DT770s. A few weeks back I switched to DT770 80ohm and I couldn't be happier. They sound really detailed and 3-dimensional, the sound has good body and nice bite. Much more natural sound than the M40xs. Also, less tiring due to the overall build of the cans and their wider sound stage. Build a preset from scratch using the output device of your choice to get the best results. Don't expect all presets to sound excellent on all kinds of headphones and/or speakers, that's just unrealistic. When I switched from the M40s to DTs I noticed that the M40s made me limit the low end in my presets too much and add to much of unnecessary high end. That was because the M40s sounded bloated and I thought I was pumping too much bass, so I cut it, and then added a lot of highs and mids to get the clarity the cans were missing. I'm correcting this in all of my presets using my DT770s now.
  16. I have had to setup some patches using my DT770 headphones on occasion and I firmly agree with cruisinon2. I found it doable, but it inevitably needed some correction once I connected to a legit FOH setup. The reason being that headphones, or even studio monitors, are engineered to work so differently from common FRFR style speakers that it's really kind of impossible to match the characteristics exactly. That being said my experience in that regard is somewhat limited so I suppose it would be possible to learn how to make the corrections accurately with headphones if you had to do it all the time.
  17. It's going to vary based on your focus. If you're starting off focused on recording and studio work you would likely be best off getting some very good headphones and studio monitors. The Beyerdynamic headphone line is very popular with people doing modeling, particularly the DT770 80 ohm or even higher. Studio monitors are a little tougher because there are some cheaper ones that sound pretty good, but the professional ones will give you overall better performance if you have a room for placing them correctly. I'm a very big fan of Yamaha speakers and have owned HS7's for many years, but there are also some other very good ones in that price range. In all speaker situations you get what you pay for, and that will reflect either positively or negatively on getting the tone you want from your modeler. Once you start moving into live performance the range of options becomes much broader. Some simply plug into a PA and let the stage monitors or in ear headphones provide the on stage sound. Some, like myself, use powered PA speakers, or what's commonly called FRFR speakers so that I have my own dedicated on stage speaker along with my feed to the PA. From there you can go many different directions such as a FRFR system in a cabinet arrangement like the Line 6 power cab, to an simple power amp and traditional cab, or even a 4cm arrangement with a traditional guitar amp and cab.... all of which have pro's and con's. But that's all somewhere off in the future for you at this point, so just keep reading in the forums and you can begin to get an idea of what might suit you best.
  18. Hi everyone, I think the best way to record with Helix is directly through USB. It gives me the most options and it is easiest to set up. However, sometimes we cannot connect through USB, because we are a someone else's studio, for instance. In that case we need to connect through an external Audio Interface (AI). When I connect my 1/4" OUT on the Helix directly to my AI (Behringer UMC404HD, but also tried this with my friend's Audient) I find that the sounds are extremely compressed. Neither the AI nor the DAW (Cubase) show that the signal is clipping, but still it sounds horrible. I'm experiencing the same thing when connecting my headphones directly to the Helix. I read that this may be cause due to the impedance of the headphones, so I bought myself a brand new set of Beyerdynamics DT770 PRO (250 Ohm) headphones, but I'm still experiencing the same thing. I tried changing the output level from Line to Instrument and also match this on the AI, but it does not resolve the compression (just lowers the volume slightly). I also tried lowering the output level on the Output block in my signal path, but this also only lowers the volume (as does the Volume Knob on the Helix). I also played with the Guitar In-Z setting on the Input block in my signal path. That seems to have some influence, but the sound is still very compressed and nowhere near how it sounds through the Power section of my amp. (I know there will always be a difference, but it really sounds uncontrollable and horribly distorted) I'm sure I'm doing something wrong, but I can't figure out what it is. I hope someone in this forum can help me out find the right settings.
  19. Hey Everyone, So now that we're temporarily unemployed/on lockdown due to the Heineken Flu, I finally have some time to delve into my Line6 Helix LT that I've been neglecting for half a year. I recently got married and moved into an apartment where my analog guitar/bass rigs would probably get me evicted, so I decided to jump face first into a digital platform that would cover both my bass/guitar needs. However I don't have studio monitors and can only rely on my Beyerdynamic DT770 Pro 80Ohms plugged direct. So... I played through the presets and it sounds rough so I tried making a couple simple profiles for a generic high gain tone (thanks youtube) and once again the tone is bad/harsh/shrill with no clarity (tried several amp models and cabs). I figured its probably user error since I'm VERY new to the digital gear so as a last ditch attempt, I download and load a few highly rated customtone profiles and some of them sound worse than where I started. I tried the settings with a Merrow MkIII, Suhr Modern, Edwards LP and a Washburn w/ EMGs. I haven't even bothered trying my basses out since I've been so frustrated with how bad I sound with just my guitars... I did a little digging here and some people with the regular Helix said they have specific output option for headphones, the LT does not. I also read that some people use varying mixers/headphone amps which they claim opens up the tone in the cans. I was wondering if this really helps and if so which headphone amp does every recommend?? I'm just dying inside that I finally have the time to play my guitars and basses and can't get a great tone from my Helix LT, any help is greatly appreciated.
  20. HI to all, I read a lot of people that really like the byerdinamic DT770 with helix...Or in general a lot of people that like a lot the high impednce headphones. May be the sound quality can be higher compared to some lowest impedance headphones...but I've a question about voulme. In general an higher impedance headphone should give less volume to the hear isn't it? So do you need to increase the phone output volume in helix to listen at reasonable level isn't it? or do you need external headphone driver?. I experimented with AKG240MKii..they are not bad and they have an impedance of 55OHms.. I tried also a pair of auddiotechnica m40X with 32 impedance and the difference in terms of volume is big...and also the sound quality on the Audiotechnica is better compared to the AKG240. thank you. KR- M.
  21. I have the HS5's in my studio room they sound great for all things from recording and jamming to youtube videos, I play my helix thru them but also thru a pair powercab 1x12 plus cabs, I dont use headphones unless i have to or need to, the Beyerdynamic DT770 Studio 80 ohm are awesome.
  22. If it's purely for home use I'm not sure it matters that much as long as we're comparing apples to apples. There are a ton of headphones on the market, most of which are oriented toward the consumer market as compared to the pro market. The difference being that the consumer market tends to add a lot of coloration to the sound to give it more appeal to people that want a thumping bass and so forth. A very popular headphone that I and many others use is the Beyerdynamic DT770 Studio 80 ohm version. It compares very nicely to the Yamaha HS7 speakers I have. The only thing that may factor into your decision is having some output system you could use if you wanted to jam with someone.
  23. 1) Personally, for a new person getting into modeling I think it might be counterproductive to go with an HX Stomp simply due to the fact that the majority of video tutorials and presets you can buy or get free are going to be for the larger units and wouldn't work correctly on the HX Stomp. The most important functional differences in my opinion between the LT and the full floor unit comes down to two things: Durability and Flexibility. The Floor is built like a tank, but that may not be important if it's going to sit in the house. The additional inputs on the Floor are useful especially when it comes to recording or using external effects or additional inputs. If you don't see those things as important to you then the LT is the answer. 2) As far as output, be aware that you tend to get what you pay for in this area. I think it's silly to spend the kind of money one spends on a Helix and then attach the cheapest outputs you can buy because no matter how good the Helix is, it will always be limited by the quality of the output device. This goes for headphones as well. Probably the most often recommended heaphones among Helix users are the Beyerdynamic DT770 in the higher ohm configurations as they tend to be more consistent with what you get from good quality monitors. I personally own the 80 ohm version but many go higher that than. I own quite a number of different headphones but the DT770's are the only ones I use with the Helix. Given your situation you could go with studio monitors or live powered speakers. The real gotcha here is that in order to get the best representation of the sound out of the Helix with live powered speakers you really need to be playing close to or at performance level volumes due to the fact that's what they're designed to do and tend to be more affected by the way we hear things known as the Fletcher-Munson curve. If you do go with studio monitors there's a WORLD of difference between cheaper speakers and higher quality speakers in this area. Personally I have several different live speakers that I use. Mostly I depend on my Yamaha DXR12, but I've also used my QSC CP8 as well as my Electro Voice ZLX-12P. As far as studio monitors I use Yamaha HS-7's and have for many, many years. 3) The only real use for a headphone amp would be if you were to choose a very high impedance pair of headphones as the higher the impedance the lower the output. 4) Personally I think the whole "amp in the room" thing is way overstated. The fact is, the amp in the room experience is only heard by the person standing near a traditional amp and cab. Once you mic that amp and cab and send it through a PA or record it with a mic, you have the same situation as you have with the Helix. Audiences rarely experience the amp in the room sound. What is also a fact with traditional speakers is the sound varies greatly depending on where you're standing relative to the speaker simply due to the way they work. This is the reason why so much attention is given both in live performances and in the studio to what mic's are used and how they're placed on the cabinet....the same way it's done in the Helix when working with studio monitors or live powered monitors. What you're hearing using good headphones, studio monitors or live powered speakers is the sound you would hear on a production recording that you've been listening to your whole life or in every concert you've ever attended. The amp in the room only relates to what a musician hears standing near a cabinet. Even in concerts nowaday the artist rarely hears the amp in a room effect because they're hearing the mic'd up version of the sound through their in ears.
  24. Howdy, I'm still trying to find the best way to build custom tones while saving precious time. I've been using Helix products since May 2019. 1- Would you say your wasting time building preset with headphone's ? 2- Do you guys generally find yourself having to re-tweak your tones via an speaker monitor (FRFR) or speaker cab in order to get good tones for Live uses? 3- Should I be using and headphone amp with the headphone output of the Helix in order to drive the DT770 ? I Find myself having to re-tweak my preset using an FRFR speaker @ 90-100dB level. Drastic EQ changes compared to using headphone (Beyer DT 770, 80 ohm). The patch seems to be too boomy and lack definition. Cheers
  25. MusicLaw

    HEADPHONES

    The Helix Floor, Helix Rack and Helix LT have plenty of power to sufficiently feed high impedance headphones. The Helix Stomp does not have as high a Headphones output signal level. Nonetheless, the 80 Ohm version of the BeyerDynamic DT770 should work fine.
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