rino2 Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 I'm not really sure if this subject was alredy discussed.... I'm really new on HD500X and this forum so... pardon me!!! the question is: Can someone axplain what is the Sound-On-Sound tech.. and How to use it on Hd500x??? Thanks..... Rino NB.. NOTE ... I'm plain to use it with Acoustic Guitar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowyaw Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 read the LOOPER section in the manual? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverhead Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 I haven't heard the term sound-on-sound for more than 20 years. Now it's called overdubbing. Back in the day it was a new technology developed for the world of analog audiotapes. Back then the average non-professional had affordable access to a stereo tape recorder. That's right - two recordable tracks on tape; no digital recording technology yet existed. Sound-on-sound magically let you record a mono track, then record a second track 'on' it by 'bouncing' both the original track and the new track onto the empty second track. That rendered the first track redundant, making it available to repeat the procedure and add a third track overwriting the original track, and then repeat indefinitely. Imagine - being able to overdub a theoretically unlimited number of tracks using a stereo machine. Of course, the end result was a mono recording with audio quality loss with each overdub, so in practical terms it was a muddy mess after a handful of tracks.... but still!! In the HD500X the looper does the same thing, with no loss of audio quality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverhead Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 True. I meant loss of quality with each layer of overdubbing. While using 1/2 speed results in loss of quality over full speed, there is no further loss of quality even in 1/2 speed with each iteration of overdubbing. It's the compounding of the quality loss in the original sound-on-sound that was a big problem with it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rino2 Posted January 20, 2015 Author Share Posted January 20, 2015 Thanks.... Probably I have not explain very well.... I know what it Overdubbing and Looper... but Sound-On-Sound is different for me.... Maybe an example sound better.... Have you ever ear the acoustic <Shine On> make by Gilmour? Well... he use a "Sort of" SoS... he play the chord, make something (maybe open a long delay), freeze the chord... or better the delay sound .....and than play the solo, when chord change he repeat the sequence... My original question is (if possible) how to .... without or better WITH the HD500x Thanks anyway Rino Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rino2 Posted January 20, 2015 Author Share Posted January 20, 2015 well!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!............... tanks for Your patience!!!!!!! but there is the second half of my question.....Can be done on HD500x????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triryche Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 This guy seems to get pretty darn close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlennDeLaune Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 The answer is Yes. :D 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triryche Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 none of the patches demoed in the linked video is the one the OP is looking for I didn't look at the actually patches, but starting @ ~ 4:10 it seemed to be the exact sound the OP is after. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbrfreak Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Here is a patch I made just for that Gilmour SOS. http://line6.com/customtone/tone/808268/ Have fun! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drschultz Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 I'll throw in my version of DG SOS. Of course mine is for the HD500 so you may have to work with it a little. http://line6.com/customtone/tone/222341/ Here is a recording I made with this patch. https://soundcloud.com/dans_music/crazy-diamond Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drschultz Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Oh, ok... thats what I get for skimming and not actually reading. Sorry about that I have my own "organ" sound that I use. It is a patch that has lots of sustained reverb with Leslie cab in the chain. I use the volume pedal to swell in the sound. A split path "like the SOS" would be a good starting point. I'll see if I can upload in the a day or so. Not able too right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rino2 Posted January 22, 2015 Author Share Posted January 22, 2015 Thanks to all guys!!! I have also learned how to use the A & B path.......... Just another little question.... in term of Tone difference between HD500 and HD500x.... What are the things to check or modify importing a 500 tone into a hd500x? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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