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How to create a Detuned Sound


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Hi everybody, I would like to create a patch with a detuned sound like van halen does. For this I would use the pitch glide, but you cannot set it in cents (0,01) it only works in decimal (0,1). I've read somewhere that you can do it with the hd400, i paste it here:

"I have the POD HD 400 and it definitely has the pitch detune. I select Pitch Glide and don't control for the expression pedal then simultaneously pushdown and turn the adjust knob (not just turn). Pushing it down and turning engages .00 cents. I detune to .02 to get a great detune chorus"

 

Is it true? Can I engage the cents in the HD500?

 

Thank you

evh

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What you said. The closest together you can get is +0.1 or -0.1. You could try and convert it by knowing that it goes 2 octaves above, +12, +24, and 2 octaves down, -12, -24.

 

If you're using it for a chorus, just set it to + or -0.1, it sounds really good. Also, put it in either path A or B after the amp. And if you want a nice wide stereo field, make sure the mixer is panned greater than 0% left and right.

 

Maybe one drawback is it does create a phasing/comb filter effect that can be heard by itself, but might disappear inside a mix.

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Ideally the EVH detuned sound has both a pitch raise and a pitch drop (a dual-detune, I guess). With the HD500 you can have both running at the same time, but with the HD400 you can have only one.

 

I use the pitch glide to get the EVH detuned tone, but I've also found that the Dimension chorus can do it very well -- perhaps better, and it's easier for switching than having two pitch glides running at one.

 

I did a request a while back on Idea Scale to make the pitch glide adjustment go to two decimal points to better catch a detuned sound. But I didn't know then Rewolf48's point about the two click points at 0.0. I'll have to check that out.

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Yeah, I know that at 0.0 there are 2 steps if you turn the knob. But I would like to choose the cents of the detune and make a double detune (-3 and -3) for a "fair warning" sound. Is it right that you can activate cents within the HD400 ??

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Using reatune in Reaper, as the units are unidentified on the hd500(x), every 0.1 in either direction is approximately 10 cents. Not sure about the HD400, but I would imagine the actual pitch glide effect on the hd400 is the same as on the hd500(x).

 

Here's a link to a webpage with a bunch of calculators dealing with semitones, frequencies, cents, etc.:

 

http://www.sengpielaudio.com/calculator-centsratio.htm

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