sapca Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Hi, I play in a band as keyboard player and have the controls of the M20D. the sound of the repetition is very loud becouse the second guitarplayer like to play with alot of power. I bought a in ear system to protect my ears. Is it possible to sent the main outputs to the monitor out of the M20D and not the individual channels ? Sorry for my bad English :) Kr, Emiel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quadcabby Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 I think that if you leave all the channels in link mode they follow the mix anyway at the monitors? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiWatts69 Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Two options: First, yes, you can send the main mix to your in ears simply by connecting the Main L/R outputs to your in ear transmitter. If you need the main (analog) outs to route on to your amps, you'll need a stereo in ear system with pass-thru so the signals can continue on to your amps OR a 2 into 4 signal splitter (2 inputs to 4 outputs). Alternatively, the simpler method and as per quadcabby's suggestion, in *your* monitor channel on the M20d, set all the channels to "linked" mode and set the levels for each such that the indicator triangle is green. When the indicator is green, there is no boost or cut on the channel relative to the main out level for that channel, giving you a mono summed main outs mix. If you do need to boost your own (for example) channel, simply adjust the level of your keys into your monitor channel. The best thing about "linked" mode is that the input will follow the main out level set for it, so if you need to (for example) increase the main vox in your FOH mix, that change will be mirrored in any monitor channel where the input is present and linked. Perhaps your second guitar player needs to learn a little stage etiquette! All that "a lot of power" on the stage does is to create an inbalance in the main FOH mix (too much stage noise bleeding out) and the ongoing battle of rising stage volumes as individuals struggle to hear themselves and turn up "a little" progressively through the night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sapca Posted May 19, 2015 Author Share Posted May 19, 2015 THX Guys :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
litesnsirens Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 Third option, rig the output from the headphone out of the board to your manager. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiWatts69 Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 litesnsirens gives a damn fine idea there, assuming you simply want the FOH signal in your in ears :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sapca Posted May 21, 2015 Author Share Posted May 21, 2015 OMG i feel me so stupid :wacko: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eklynx Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 Headphone out only works as long as a channel isn't solo'ed. SO if your FoH guy (assuming you have one) needs to solo a channel, you'd hear the soloing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
litesnsirens Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 OK so the obvious question would be, when would your FOH guy solo a channel in the middle of a performance? Or are you just pointing out that it may be annoying during sound check. I didn't know that the solo affected the headphone out but I know that the Mute all button doesn't mute the headphone out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiWatts69 Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 As with litesnsirens, I'd be wondering why the FOH guy would solo a channel mid performance too. But your point is still valid. On the basis that the M20d would be stageside and the FOH guy working from an iPad, he'd have no relevant need to solo a channel.... it would be of no use on the iPad If the M20 were not stageside, the option of running a headphone output would be moot anyway, since the run would (probably) be too far to make it usable. Also, I'd have thought any decent FOH guy would, by the time you are performing, be adjusting any eq in relation to what they are hearing through the main speakers, rather than in cans. BUT, using the headphone outs in this manner could throw a curveball IF a channel was left solo'd. Personally, we only solo a channel during a preliminary mix from recording where the preliminary mix is being done in cans prior to raising the main outs to tweak it for the room. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eklynx Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 As a FOH guy, i solo channels all the time, helps to point out what you're listening for in the main mix from each instrument. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewolf48 Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 sapca (OP) actually said that he controls the M20d, so I don't think it will be a problem in this case ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sapca Posted May 23, 2015 Author Share Posted May 23, 2015 sapca (OP) actually said that he controls the M20d, so I don't think it will be a problem in this case ;) IDD :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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