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Hi,

 

I have just a short question about recording. Multi channel recording just records native (Pre-) Input signals - makes sense.

 

But what's about the Main Mix - what will there be recorded? The Signal that goes to the PA - with all settings effects etc?

Or is the Main Mix although "bundled" native Input signals? 

 

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But what's about the Main Mix - what will there be recorded? The Signal that goes to the PA - with all settings effects etc?

Or is the Main Mix although "bundled" native Input signals?

The main mix recording is the "what you hear" recording, ie everything "post" but before master faders. Note that one or two of us have noticed that the nominal level that this recording is made at makes it seem a little quiet when you listen back to it.

 

What I tend to do is;

Record throughout gig as Inputs only

save the setup at the end of a gig

when I get back to base, I then play back the recordings through the M20d without altering the mix aside from a little boost on the channels for amplified backline stuff (guitar cabs mainly) and have the analog outs plugged into a 2 channel USB interface into my PC. I then capture those actual outputs into my DAW. This gives me control over the actual main mix recording levels and yields a more satisfactory result. I can also, if necessary, add a little reverb presense as the main out recordings can sound a little dry (they lack the reverb effect of your venue)

 

This is a recording I did as detailed above, for a band that often hire my rig. Inputs only, playback via USB into DAW. Modest reverb added.

https://soundcloud.com/handsome-dan-mavericks/beer-reel-big-fish-cover-live-2015

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Yah, it's post everything (pre main level)

 

I find this recording useless! Because on the actual venue people are listening to the back line.

 

So this recording will be: Loads of vocals, to much kick drum and a tiny little bit of the rest.

 

Normally I export the separate input files to a DAW and mix there. But I've used the procedure described by @SiWatts69 and it works great because you can adjust the mix for the recording. 

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Yup, That's correct. 

 

Most you can do is try to match everything else in the mains too (use headphones).

 

I personally prefer a pair of room mics to pick up the room noise as well and use that as a base to mix the multi-track recording over.

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Did this on Saturday just gone...

 

M20d recording:

 

SD card "inputs only" recording

Playback after gig and capture main outs into DAW. No levels altered from performance.

Exported to MP3 without any editing

 

Mobile phone video footage shot on the night (HTC One)

 

Video and audio sync'd and video exported with replacement (M20) audio track.

 

https://www.facebook.com/pahirerotherham/videos/vb.635858379782685/845510118817509/?type=1&theater

 

Bear in mind it's a vid exported for Facebook and shot on a smartphone so vid quality isn't HD!

 

Drum mics: Audix D6 kick, Audix i5 snare, RODE NT4 overhead

Guitar mics: Audix D4 on rhythm, Shure Beta57 on lead

Bass: DI

Keys: DI

Vocals: Beta58 on Lead, SM58, AKG D5 (2) and another Beta58 (drummer) for backing vox mics

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Hi,

 

its a very cool video. Nice sound and performance. Will check your tips in the future for my setup.

 

Question - you use a Marshall Halfstack with the face to the audience - isn't it a Problem because of Volume?

 

Thanks a lot

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