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HD500x Midi cc for effects loops


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I am trying to use the HD500x to send midi CC's to control an RJM effects gizmo. I setup a blank patch (call it Patch 1), and configured pedal 1 to send a CC#82 toggle on midi channel 1 (rjm's channel) with a value of 127. After sending the patch to the HD500x, everything works great. However, if I change programs on HD500x, and go back to Patch 1, the CC's no longer work. I verified the midi is working between the RJM and HD500x, I verified the channel, value, and CC#. It all works again if I send the patch from my laptop back to the HD500x, but, again, as soon as i change patches and go back, the MIDI info never sends.

 

Setup was as follows:

 

HD500x midi out>>>>>RJM EG Midi In>>>>RJM EG Midi Out>>>>Midex08In>>>laptop>>>Midex08out>>>HD500x midi in

 

  1. I was able to successfully see program changes on the EG (program_change1.txt)
  2. I was able to successfully turn on and off loops 2 & 3 (cc 82 & 83).
  3. When I changed programs, and go back to original program, no longer seeing CC messages out of HD500x.

 

 

*****************************MIDI OX CAPTURE*************

 

 ===> MIDI-OX Version: 7.0.2.372
 ===> Log Opened: Fri 18-Sep-2015 16:28:20 ===>
 TIMESTAMP IN PORT STATUS DATA1 DATA2 CHAN NOTE EVENT               
 0005B19F  12  12     B0    52    7F    1  ---  Control Change        rllw> FS1 on HD500x changes RJM EG ch 82 (0x52)
 0005B62A  12  12     B0    52    00    1  ---  Control Change        
 0005B9A0  12  12     B0    52    7F    1  ---  Control Change        
 0005BB4C  12  12     B0    52    00    1  ---  Control Change        
 0005BD2D  12  12     B0    52    7F    1  ---  Control Change        
 0005BE97  12  12     B0    52    00    1  ---  Control Change        
 0005C032  12  12     B0    52    7F    1  ---  Control Change        
 0005C191  12  12     B0    52    00    1  ---  Control Change        
 00061989  12  12     B0    53    00    1  ---  Control Change        rllw> FS2 on HD500x changes RJM EG ch 83 (0x53)    
 00061B39  12  12     B0    53    7F    1  ---  Control Change        
 00061CCA  12  12     B0    53    00    1  ---  Control Change        
 00061E28  12  12     B0    53    7F    1  ---  Control Change        
 00061F92  12  12     B0    53    00    1  ---  Control Change        
 00062123  12  12     B0    53    7F    1  ---  Control Change        
 00067A47  12  12     C0    01    --    1  ---  PC: Brite Acc. Piano  rllw> Program Change up
 00067A48  12  12     B0    50    00    1  ---  Control Change        
 00067AD1  12  12     B0    50    00    1  ---  Control Change        
 00068A5C  12  12     B0    00    00    1  ---  CC: Bank MSB          
 00068A5F  12  12     B0    00    00    1  ---  CC: Bank MSB          
 00068A67  12  12     C0    00    --    1  ---  PC: Acc. Grand Piano  rllw> Program Change back down
 <=== MIDI-OX Log Closed: Fri 18-Sep-2015 16:29:29 <===              rllw> MIDI CC's no longer sent from HD500x
 

 

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Save the preset ON THE HD. Then switch presets, switch back, and then check the settings ON THE HD.

 

Some people find HD Edit indispensable, I find it annoyingly quirky.

 

Also, if you're going to send output from MidiOx, please go to OPTIONS/DATA DISPLAY and un-check MONITOR OUTPUT:HEX so that we can have human readable data to look at!

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rd2rk,

 

Thanks for the help!  You were right about the Edit not working correctly.  When I made and saved the changes on the HD, the program changes worked.

However, now i'm seeing an interesting behavior.

 

1. Start HD on Patch 1.

2. Switch to Patch 2.

3. When I switch back to Patch 1, all of the MIDI CC's I have configured are sent during the program change.

 

When switching patches does the HD send all MIDI cc's that are programed regardless of if you've hit the FS?

 

 

I really appreciate your help!

 

 

******************************

 

 ===> MIDI-OX Version: 7.0.2.372

 ===> Log Opened: Sat 19-Sep-2015 10:26:08 ===>

 TIMESTAMP IN PORT STATUS DATA1 DATA2 CHAN NOTE EVENT               

    518942 11  12    176    82     0    1  ---  Control Change        rllw> testing midi cc on fs1

    519564 11  12    176    82   127    1  ---  Control Change        

    520577 11  12    176    83     0    1  ---  Control Change        rllw> testing midi cc on fs2

    521269 11  12    176    83   127    1  ---  Control Change        

    526185 11  12    192     1   ---    1  ---  PC: Brite Acc. Piano  rllw> program change to patch 2

    526186 11  12    176    80     0    1  ---  Control Change        

    526308 11  12    176    80     0    1  ---  Control Change        

    532790 11  12    192     0   ---    1  ---  PC: Acc. Grand Piano  rllw> program change to patch 3

    532791 11  12    176    82   127    1  ---  Control Change        rllw> All of these CC messages were sent when I switched to patch 3

    532792 11  12    176    83   127    1  ---  Control Change        

    532793 11  12    176    84   127    1  ---  CC: Portamento Ctrl   

    532794 11  12    176    85   127    1  ---  Control Change        

    532795 11  12    176    85   127    1  ---  Control Change        

    532796 11  12    176    87   127    1  ---  Control Change        

    532797 11  12    176    88   127    1  ---  Control Change        

    532798 11  12    176    82     0    1  ---  Control Change        

    532799 11  12    176    85   127    1  ---  Control Change        

    532896 11  12    176    82   127    1  ---  Control Change        

    532897 11  12    176    83   127    1  ---  Control Change        

    532898 11  12    176    84   127    1  ---  CC: Portamento Ctrl   

    532899 11  12    176    85   127    1  ---  Control Change        

    532900 11  12    176    85   127    1  ---  Control Change        

    532901 11  12    176    87   127    1  ---  Control Change        

    532902 11  12    176    88   127    1  ---  Control Change        

    532903 11  12    176    82     0    1  ---  Control Change        

    532904 11  12    176    85   127    1  ---  Control Change        

 <=== MIDI-OX Log Closed: Sat 19-Sep-2015 10:27:00 <===

 

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