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My POD HD500x doesn't sound harmoniusly rich when i do the following:

Phones Output -> Stereo System by using a 1/4"-RCA stereo cable

 

Sounds like bypass. I'm using the Studio/Direct output, although I've tried the other outputs (Combo Pwr Stack, etc.) and changes a little but stills the same.

MASTER VOLUME is at half-step. (When I put it 100% it doesn't change either)

 

I go for distortioned presets and it stills sounds so bad

 

When I start from the 1/4" R/L Mono output it stills the same.

 

Cables are fine.

 

I have the last usb firmware, just in case.

 

Any thoughs?

 

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My POD HD500x doesn't sound harmoniusly rich when i do the following:Phones Output -> Stereo System by using a 1/4"-RCA stereo cableSounds like bypass. I'm using the Studio/Direct output, although I've tried the other outputs (Combo Pwr Stack, etc.) and changes a little but stills the same. MASTER VOLUME is at half-step. (When I put it 100% it doesn't change either)I go for distortioned presets and it stills sounds so badWhen I start from the 1/4" R/L Mono output it stills the same.Cables are fine.I have the last usb firmware, just in case.Any thoughs?Thanks for reading

Depending on the kind of speakers you have, their response may not be particularly flat. You might want to look into a powered monitor, or a pair of them if you want stereo FX.

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I would not use the phones output for this.  Use the standard outputs at line level. 

Correct. 

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could be that your stereo system is giving out a broader frequency range tone than that you are used to hear from your external amp or headphones.. making the final tone appear as thin since too much highs and bass tend to mask the important mid range where most of a typical guitar tone resides..

 

if this is the case, you could use the Global EQ to cut some of the highs and bass to get a more focused tone

 

 

Yeah, maybe if i do that it would make a better tone, but there's a idea that stops me about it: "I would be making a tone according to my stereo speakers and when i'd go live with a powered monitor, it wouldn't respect the tone i created: it would me a mess." I hope you agree with me

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I would not use the phones output for this.  Use the standard outputs at line level. 

 

 

yeah, i tried. But the same. I have the solution: don't go for the speakers. get a powered monitor. Thanks for answering

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Depending on the kind of speakers you have, their response may not be particularly flat. You might want to look into a powered monitor, or a pair of them if you want stereo FX.

 

 

 

 

Yeah, men. You're right. I should go into a powered monitor as well, actualy on a pair. But the thing is I though it would be awesome to hear it from the stereo speakers. And i'll be honest, I don't see how it doesn't sound well since I hear my music from there. With guitars included also. And it sounds fine.

Thanks for your concerning about it.

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There's a big difference between live sound and processed and mixed sound like you would normally hear on your stereo.  Live sound has a much greater dynamic range and stereo systems are designed to accurately produce sounds that have been mixed and mastered in a studio.

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There's a big difference between live sound and processed and mixed sound like you would normally hear on your stereo.  Live sound has a much greater dynamic range and stereo systems are designed to accurately produce sounds that have been mixed and mastered in a studio.

 

 

That’s an interesting though which I totally support. Thanks for your answer

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Yeah, maybe if i do that it would make a better tone, but there's a idea that stops me about it: "I would be making a tone according to my stereo speakers and when i'd go live with a powered monitor, it wouldn't respect the tone i created: it would me a mess." I hope you agree with me

Thanks for answering

Look...this falls squarely into the category of "just because you can, doesn't mean that you should". Gear like the POD, that even allows the possibility of connecting to your home stereo, is fairly new to the guitar playing world. That means that for almost as long as the electric guitar has existed, nobody was concerned with trying to get gig-ready sounds through their living room stereo, because it wasn't even an option...so why start now? You're not bringing those speakers and that amp to your gig, so this makes no sense. Build your patches through whatever gear you're gonna be using on stage. Anything else is a fool's errand, no matter how convenient it seems.

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of course I agree with what you said above here, but with my reply I tried anly to give a solution to your initial question, ie how to get when playing an "harmoniusly rich" tone also from your home stereo, and not how to get a general good reference tone to make your patches

 

 

No, that's Ok. Any idea is very welcome

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Look...this falls squarely into the category of "just because you can, doesn't mean that you should". Gear like the POD, that even allows the possibility of connecting to your home stereo, is fairly new to the guitar playing world. That means that for almost as long as the electric guitar has existed, nobody was concerned with trying to get gig-ready sounds through their living room stereo, because it wasn't even an option...so why start now? You're not bringing those speakers and that amp to your gig, so this makes no sense. Build your patches through whatever gear you're gonna be using on stage. Anything else is a fool's errand, no matter how convenient it seems.

 

 

I absolutely agree with you. That's new for me. I've always worked with multi-effects and a combo amp and also a pedalboard and a combo amp. I tried that new "Amp Simulator" concept to me for many reasons (one of them was not have to carry out a heavy amp to the gigs). Besisdes, there's not always an appropiate mic for the amp, or disposable AC power (110V), sometimes voltage is down. There's no space in stage sometimes, and more space for transporting it or the risk of damage when transporting. I sold my amp two months before, and I used Guitar Rig until now. But I have to get an amp again, actually I'm thinking about a powered monitor.

But I had to try and see if domestic stereo speakers were a good option. I guess not, at least with mine (JVC UXp400)

Thanks for your thoughs

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nobody was concerned with trying to get gig-ready sounds through their living room stereo,

 

I did it with my keyboards. 

 

Of course, it wasn't one of those $99 all-in-one stereos that get sold at Wal-Mart. Plus, keys are different than guitars. But the point is --- no point at all. I just like being contradictory. 

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I never shared that though with you and I believe it's important. I just forgot it:

I listen to music like that: Computer > Stereo Speakers (those ones i refered at first)

This is what I though at first: "If I can get a really good sound by using Guitar Rig via ASIO4All with my stereo speakers, then I should listen my POD as well with my stereo speakers"

 

So, as you know I got a surprise... Then I started this forum.

 

And being honest, it'll still being a mystery for me

 

Thanks again for all your solutions

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I'll try to give another solution:

For those who doesn't have a powered monitor or a guitar amp and only have a stereo system (temporary I hope)

 

You could do the following:

- Connect your stereo system (SS) to your PC. You might be using a RCA-1/8" cable. In other words, configure your PC to hear it through you SS.

- Use the Realtek Driver (not the L6 PODHD500X driver). For me, it works better in that specific situation.

- Connect your POD by using a 1/4"-1/8" cable to your computer. POD Phones Output to your PC Line input.

- Open Guitar Rig (hope you have it). Create a blank preset. Configure GR this way: Use the ASIO4ALL driver. Input: Line Input. Output: Your Speakers

 

If you might guessing you should use the Studio Direct Output in your POD, then you're right.

The signal you will be sending to your PC will be the signal from your POD. It won't be proccesed by GR because you're in a blank preset. Then the sound gets more interesting.

And I don't know how this happens but it worked nice for me.

Now guys, I hope it won't be a definitive solution for you: "You really should get an amp". Don't trust that to build your patches. But then, it will help a few users to solve a temporary problem

 

Hope this helps

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