relayerxxx Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 Has anyone tried the Boss FB-2 Feedbacker pedal? Would it work with a Variax, in particular if using alt tunings? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisinon2 Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 Has anyone tried the Boss FB-2 Feedbacker pedal? Would it work with a Variax, in particular if using alt tunings? Don't see why not. The pedal has no way of knowing if the signal you're feeding it has been manipulated with alt tunings or not. As far as it's concerned, a guitar signal is a guitar signal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
relayerxxx Posted November 27, 2015 Author Share Posted November 27, 2015 But it needs to be used with an amp for it to drive the guitar into "feedback", as far as I understand. I don't know whether it would work with piezos, especially if the feedback tone was then repitched to a different note. I've used a Sustainer-equipped guitar with a Roland VG-8, which is fine because the mag pickups drive the sustainer even if there's no amp volume. My dream is a Sustainer equipped Variax, of course... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisinon2 Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 But it needs to be used with an amp for it to drive the guitar into "feedback", as far as I understand. I don't know whether it would work with piezos, especially if the feedback tone was then repitched to a different note. I've used a Sustainer-equipped guitar with a Roland VG-8, which is fine because the mag pickups drive the sustainer even if there's no amp volume. My dream is a Sustainer equipped Variax, of course... Well that I don't know, you might be right...but you had asked specifically about the alt tunings. I still doubt that matters. But it is possible that the piezos might be a problem, in which case it might not work with the modeling at all, alt tunings or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clay-man Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 I believe a feedbacker pedal is just a fake feedback tone being produced by the pedal, and not actual feedback. It's to simulate the sound of feedback. You do NOT need an amp. There's no physical way a pedal can create real feedback. I believe it reads the pitch of the note you're playing and then gradually fades in an overtone to that pitch that sounds like feedback. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
relayerxxx Posted December 1, 2015 Author Share Posted December 1, 2015 That is certainly the case with other feedbacker pedals (eg. Line 6's Dr Distorto - there's actually a youtube vid of someone demoing it using a Variax.) But it seems that the FB-2 does something a bit different, hence the manual saying that it only works using an amp, not headphones. Would be great to find someone that had actually tried one with a Variax. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clay-man Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 That is certainly the case with other feedbacker pedals (eg. Line 6's Dr Distorto - there's actually a youtube vid of someone demoing it using a Variax.) But it seems that the FB-2 does something a bit different, hence the manual saying that it only works using an amp, not headphones. Would be great to find someone that had actually tried one with a Variax. I assumed it was a rebranding of their old feedback pedal. Strange. I wouldn't know how they'd make actual feedback happen besides boosting the signal really high for a moment. There's no way to feedback your guitar through the guitar cable or anything. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisinon2 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 If all else fails, you've got magnetic pickups that aren't half bad...it's not like you'll need or want feedback for minutes at a time anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillBee Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 I have one of the old orange Boss Dist/Feedback pedals and all it does is produce an overtone. It doesn't "drive" the guitar and amp into feedback. If the new version is similar there shouldn't be any issues as long as it receives a signal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinDorr Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 It believe it uses the accoustic sound of the Amp (i.e., has a builtin Mic) to control its feedback loop (listening through headphones alone won't allow the feedback control of the pedal). As long as you feed some portion/version of the pedals output signal to the Mic it should not really matter whether your Variax is messing with the string to alt tuning conversion and you put the result into the pedal. Can't say more or be sure as I don't have the pedal and just read about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillBee Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 I think Martin is right to an extent. I took a listen to some vids and read a bit. I sounds like they changed from the old way of using a matching tone for the FB. http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/nov12/articles/boss-fb2.htm It almost sounds like the FB part is a sustainer cranked with a real slow decay. -B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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