mileskb Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 I have a couple of B15N's. I have been meaning to run this experiment for a while but I needed to get more familiar with the Helix to be fair about it. So here's my setup.. Helix > QSC 100 amp > Genz Benz 2 x 12 Flat Response Guitar Cab and in the other corner.... A recently refurbished 60's B15N Fliptop. I have an A/B switch so I just went into the Helix with side A and the Ampeg off of side B. For guitar, I was using my trusty Ovation UltraGS H-S-S with Kahler Pro. While the B15N is primarily a Bass amp, it makes a very nice guitar amp as well and it has inputs for "Guitar, Bass" and "Instrument." Initial Result: After noodling around, switching between the two rigs, and tweaking EQ or tone as applicable on both units here and there, it sounds and feels like the same amp using two different cabinets. Maybe I could get them identical with a full FRFR setup, and maybe even with my current setup, but honestly, there wasn't a better.... there was just a difference between the two. Then I put on the headphones attached to the Helix on and as they say "I got it." While it was a bit awkward sliding the headphones on and off, there was little if any difference between what was coming out of the headphones and what the actual B15N sounded like in the room. My next test is to use a microphone (probably an SM57) on the Ampeg speaker and compare the "mic'd" speaker to the output of the Helix with the same selected mic. It's just a hunch, but I'd be willing to bet that if I don't make note of which signal I'm listening to, I won't be able to tell the difference. I will try to put some decent audio together to post.... but... My point of this arguably premature post is that when "comparing" there are a LOT of factors involved especially when trying to achieve that "in the room" feel. No matter how much EQ'ing or IR magic I can perform, two 12" speakers, and I dare say even an FRFR setup, is not going to provide the same "feel" as a single 15", and while that "may" matter in a room by myself, on stage, it becomes a mute point. Bottom line is that I'm VERY impressed with the Helix's ability to capture this amp's sound and feel. I'll plug in a bass later and see what that sounds like in comparison, but really... I hear people talk about <insert competition modeler here> is "better" and I really have to wonder what that's based on. I have full confidence in saying that a recorded Helix Tuck"nGO patch is likely indistinguishable from an actual B15N (recorded with the same microphone as the model) as you can get, and I honestly can't imagine getting closer because it's obvious the audible "differences" have to do with Microphone and placement, room and tone/EQ settings. Tonality is the same. Of course, I now need to make an actual recording to back that up... but I'm pretty confident. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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