Rocco_Crocco Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 What do you like about them? What don't you like? I am considering buying the Mission Engineering pedal, there are a few used ones available with asking price of $100... just want to consider other options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncann Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 I use a Mission Engineering EP1-L6. There isn't much to not like about this pedal other than price, and if you plan on using it for volume control, just don't. The throw is too short for that. Great for everything else and built like a mini-tank. Never had any other pedals, so can't compare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spikey Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 I use the Mission SP-1 L6 Helix pedal for my wah, and use an Ernie Ball Volume pedal for (wait for it) volume. I have gotten used to the Mission pedal for wah because of the switch, and because my wah adjustments allow me to keep the wah on and at "heel down" the wah is turned off. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verne-Bunsen Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 I went the home-brew route with an old wah and an old Roto-vibe, couldn't be more pleased. Cost about $20 total and took about an hour to do them both. http://line6.com/support/topic/21821-modding-a-cry-baby-to-make-an-expression-pedal/?do=findComment&comment=169079 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColonelForbin Posted September 6, 2016 Share Posted September 6, 2016 I use a Mission Engineering EP1-L6. if you plan on using it for volume control, just don't. The throw is too short for that. Great for everything else and built like a mini-tank. I use the Mission SP-1 L6 Helix pedal for my wah, and use an Ernie Ball Volume pedal for (wait for it) volume. I have gotten used to the Mission pedal for wah because of the switch, and because my wah adjustments allow me to keep the wah on and at "heel down" the wah is turned off. I just had an 'ah hah!' moment there sitting at work reading this thread! I was working on incorporating the Mission exp pedal with some Helix patches yesterday, and ready a different thread where Spikey detailed his wah settings to do the 'heel down wah off'. Some of my patches have exp 1 as the wah or volume by default, others it's exp 2; but anyway, I set up the Mission exp as the volume and the Helix exp as the wah. Used that setting and works great! Now I just need to reverse the exp assignments so the Mission exp 2 is the wah, and the Helix exp 1 is volume. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datacommando Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 Just my opinion, but I think that some of these expression pedals are ridiculously expensive when you consider what they actually do – sweep a potentiometer back and forth! Yeah, right! For a really inexpensive and functional solution, may I suggest the simple M-Audio EX-P. They have an integral 1/4" cable and also a built-in polarity switch, so they work with just about anything, keyboards, whatever - just plug in. Mine works a treat as EXP 2, plus you can buy half a dozen of these for less than the price of one Mission unit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zooey Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 I'm certainly with you on the cost of most of these things being absurd, but 25% of the Amazon reviews on the EX-P give it one star for the mechanical linkage between the pedal and the ppot breaking pretty quickly. I suppose you could carry a spare or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lachdanan0121 Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 I use the mission exp pedal designed specifically for the Helix. Works well enough, although I think I may need to adjust the physical sweeping motion, maybe not. I also have a moog exp pedal, but honestly I didn't like it cause it was a little too tall to use under my studio desk without having my knee be up against my Keyboard trey in my studio. It also doesn't feel quite as smooth as the Mission EXP pedal designed for the Helix does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datacommando Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 I'm certainly with you on the cost of most of these things being absurd, but 25% of the Amazon reviews on the EX-P give it one star for the mechanical linkage between the pedal and the ppot breaking pretty quickly. I suppose you could carry a spare or two. Yep – and 50% were happy shoppers. You pay your money and take your chance. As for spares – well, at these prices, you could get through 'em like a box of Kleenex! :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommasoferrarese Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 May I suggest having a look at Source Audio's Reflex exp pedal? It's very advanced, has different curves, does LFOs and syncs to midi clock. And sends both analog and MIDI exp at the same time.. And sends any controller you want it to send. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterHamm Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 I've used...Mission Line 6 pedal and didn't like it (but that's just me, most people love it and it works great).Old Korg EXP2 and it works pretty well, but it plastic-ey.Zoom pedal with custom TRS to TS cables that I made (I. LOVE. THIS PEDAL.)Ernie Ball VP Jr. (best EXP with Helix imho, don't remember which one it is...) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joepeggio Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 Pete if you find out what pedal that vp Jr. Is I would like to know. How is the sweep? Looking to use as exp 2 volume and on board as wah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocco_Crocco Posted September 7, 2016 Author Share Posted September 7, 2016 Pete if you find out what pedal that vp Jr. Is I would like to know. How is the sweep? Looking to use as exp 2 volume and on board as wah. Its the one that says 25K ohm on the input plate. http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/EB6181?adpos=1o1&creative=55644138841&device=c&matchtype=&network=g&gclid=Cj0KEQjw9b6-BRCq7YP34tvW_uUBEiQAkK3svfH-ybJrZXlbrLSNgViXM6R4GQCzxSD8J1djiPz8mxwaAoNc8P8HAQ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterHamm Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 Pete if you find out what pedal that vp Jr. Is I would like to know. How is the sweep? Looking to use as exp 2 volume and on board as wah. The sweep is simply AWESOME... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocco_Crocco Posted September 7, 2016 Author Share Posted September 7, 2016 I just got the Ernie Ball VP Jr and set it up as my wah using Spikey's method of heel down/wah off. It works spectacularly. Thanks for the tip, Spikey! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDaveDaveDave Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 I've got a Mission for the Helix, and two other Misssions for my hybrid H9/analog rig. I'm still getting used to the shorter Mission sweep after 3 months. I appreciate the smaller space of the mission pedals. My prior EB VP Jr.s started acting up, and I can't stand unpredictability, so I prefer the idea of adjusting my preference for the longer EB sweep for the purpotadely better Mission reliability. Only time will tell though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joepeggio Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 Thanks Pete. Looks like the JR 25k is the one to get. I was worried about the short throw of the Mission pedals for volume control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cclement Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 I just got the Ernie Ball VP Jr and set it up as my wah using Spikey's method of heel down/wah off. It works spectacularly. Thanks for the tip, Spikey! Are you doing the TRS to double TS hook up for it? Was curious about how it's done with the Helix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocco_Crocco Posted September 9, 2016 Author Share Posted September 9, 2016 Are you doing the TRS to double TS hook up for it? Was curious about how it's done with the Helix. No just a regular guitar cable. The settings for the heel down/off wah are in this thread... http://line6.com/support/topic/22614-wah-off-at-heel-or-off-at-toe-can-this-be-done-with-fw-201/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcamponovo Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 Mission Pedals makes a great expression pedal just for Helix. Looks super slick and works well. Check them out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrednoise321 Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 I'm using a morley expression pedal. The M2. A guy showed a simple mod you need to do to this pedal get it to work. It's not the best but it does the job. For $60 I'll take it. I use just a standard instrument cable. Works great. Good throw for wah and whammy for my big feet!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datacommando Posted September 11, 2016 Share Posted September 11, 2016 Got to get me one of those Ernie Ball string driven things. State of the art! If not, maybe I will try building one of these units – outstanding!! Check this monster out: https://guitarextended.wordpress.com/2011/12/14/arduino-based-pedal-pduino/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glideman Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 Line 6 one for volume, and a Mission pedal for misc parameters. Use the onboard pedal for Wah since I still have to have a switch versus them adding the heel down wah bypass option in a future firmware. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tailstop Posted December 24, 2016 Share Posted December 24, 2016 Hello all, I just crossed over from AxefxII. Love my Helix so far! Can someone tell me exactly how they setup their Ernie Ball Vp jr as a wah please? From what I've read we DONT use TRS cables with the Helix....? Also, I've mounted a switch in my EB vpjr to turn the wah on and off, so I guess what I'd like is to have the switch be the on/off in exp3 and have the wah go to exp2. Does this sound about right? I would just use the Mounted expression pedal but I'm left footed. Any help would be appreciated! Thx! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbuhajla Posted December 24, 2016 Share Posted December 24, 2016 I use a couple of the old plastic Line 6 EXP-1 pedals that I previously used with my M5/13. They work just as well as any $150+ pedal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterHamm Posted December 24, 2016 Share Posted December 24, 2016 Hello all, I just crossed over from AxefxII. Love my Helix so far! Can someone tell me exactly how they setup their Ernie Ball Vp jr as a wah please? From what I've read we DONT use TRS cables with the Helix....? Also, I've mounted a switch in my EB vpjr to turn the wah on and off, so I guess what I'd like is to have the switch be the on/off in exp3 and have the wah go to exp2. Does this sound about right? I would just use the Mounted expression pedal but I'm left footed. Any help would be appreciated! Thx! If you can put the VP back to factory specs without the switch, you can use the new feature where all the way at 0 is off and the way auto-activates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MusicLaw Posted December 24, 2016 Share Posted December 24, 2016 Has anyone tried a Fender EXP-1 Expression and Volume pedal (designed for use with Fender's Mustang III/IV/V Amps) with the Helix? If so, what modification or configuration was involved, if any? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lulu_m Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 Yes, same sort of question here too. Is somebody using a zoom fp02 pedal with the Helix? Can't find info if this one works with the Helix? I just do'n want to invest too much in an extra pedal i'll use mostly to control delay, and some other fx params. The zoom looks nice and are quite cheap?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterHamm Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 Yes, same sort of question here too. Is somebody using a zoom fp02 pedal with the Helix? Can't find info if this one works with the Helix? I just do'n want to invest too much in an extra pedal i'll use mostly to control delay, and some other fx params. The zoom looks nice and are quite cheap?! I have two of the metal ones if you mean this one. http://www.zzounds.com/item--ZOMFP02M?siid=122303 It's TRS. There are two ways it works. One, simply use a TS plug and change the polarity in globals, but then it doesn't work "full travel" but takes you to full about half way up (for the record, I like this). The other way is to create a custom TS to TRS cable where the "R" on the pedal end connects to the "S" on the Helix end. That works perfectly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lulu_m Posted December 25, 2016 Share Posted December 25, 2016 I have two of the metal ones if you mean this one. http://www.zzounds.com/item--ZOMFP02M?siid=122303 It's TRS. There are two ways it works. One, simply use a TS plug and change the polarity in globals, but then it doesn't work "full travel" but takes you to full about half way up (for the record, I like this). The other way is to create a custom TS to TRS cable where the "R" on the pedal end connects to the "S" on the Helix end. That works perfectly. That's exactly the pedal i'm interested in! Thank you Peter for your response. I will order it next week, I do think just a TS will do fine for me too ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billlorentzen Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 Has anyone tried the Roland EV5? I have one of their vol pedals with the same design and it has been very reliable for years, so I'd be pretty confident about it not breaking down. I wonder if there is a simple mod I could do on the Roland vol pedal to make it an exp pedal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tailstop Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 If you can put the VP back to factory specs without the switch, you can use the new feature where all the way at 0 is off and the way auto-activates. I guess I wasn't clear. I want a switch to activate my wah on/off, and use the Ernie Ball VpJr as the wah. So far I've been able to utilize my Vp as the wah, I just haven't been able to use the switch I installed in the pedal to turn the wah block on and off. I have the EB pedal plugged into Exp2, works fine for wah. Overall a playable and usable wah. No where near as intricate as the AxefxII but it'll do. Now, I need my switch plugged into Exp3 to turn the wah on and off. I got it to recognize the switch and it does turn it on for a split second, then back off again. Any ideas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterHamm Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 I guess I wasn't clear. I want a switch to activate my wah on/off, and use the Ernie Ball VpJr as the wah. So far I've been able to utilize my Vp as the wah, I just haven't been able to use the switch I installed in the pedal to turn the wah block on and off. I have the EB pedal plugged into Exp2, works fine for wah. Overall a playable and usable wah. No where near as intricate as the AxefxII but it'll do. Now, I need my switch plugged into Exp3 to turn the wah on and off. I got it to recognize the switch and it does turn it on for a split second, then back off again. Any ideas? How does the switch connect to Helix though? How does Helix know it's there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tailstop Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 The switch is plugged into exp3 with a ts cable. How else did you think I plugged it in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterHamm Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 The switch is plugged into exp3 with a ts cable. How else did you think I plugged it in? Well, the EXP jacks are not for switches, they are for potentiometers. I don't know how you'd make the toe switch work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tailstop Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 Aaaaaahhhh. That makes sense. Well, can I use the exp3 jack to allow a switch to change a midiCC#? Wah engage/disengage? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterHamm Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 I think it would be easier to get used to the on-board pedal, myself. Or... even better... use the new auto-off feature with whatever EXP you like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tailstop Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 Okay, can you point me to the auto off feature then please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterHamm Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 Okay, can you point me to the auto off feature then please? part of the 2.11 update. I haven't messed with it yet and don't have my Helix at home right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncann Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 Okay, can you point me to the auto off feature then please? Have a look here: http://line6.com/support/topic/24638-auto-activation-of-wah/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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