spankygtr Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 How do I assign a footswitch to a snapshot? I poked around for a good hour last night, and it seemed to be impossible to find this out from your manual or editor. Some videos demonstrated aspects of snapshots, and I was able to create some, but that final step of assigning them to switches seemed to be left out. I tried hitting the menu button, then pressing knob 1. Manual said I'd see "footswich assign", but instead I saw "bypass assign". Hit a couple of knobs and switches, then I seemed to be frozen, couldnt get ANYTHING to happen till I rebooted. Very alarming, may have to return the Helix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil_m Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 You can't assign snapshots to footswitches... There a few different ways to view snapshots, though. You can always get to snapshot mode by pressing the Bank Up and Bank Down footswitches simultaneously. You can also change Preset Mode to display snapshots - you can have all 8 footswitches show snapshots (effectively making preset mode the same as snapshot mode) or you can have the upper row of switches be 4 snapshots, and the lower row be 8 presets. Or you can have that reversed. Or you can have 4 stomp switches and 4 snapshots... Check out page 50 of the manual to get the full rundown. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verne-Bunsen Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 Another option is to jump MIDI out to MIDI in and assign a footswitch in Stomp mode to send the proper command to activate the snapshot you want. Not perfect, the footswitch doesn't stay illuminated to show that it's active, but it's workable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vmoncebaiz Posted September 6, 2016 Share Posted September 6, 2016 Another option is to jump MIDI out to MIDI in and assign a footswitch in Stomp mode to send the proper command to activate the snapshot you want. Not perfect, the footswitch doesn't stay illuminated to show that it's active, but it's workable. That's a pretty sick workaround. I prefer 10 stomp mode myself. So now having the option to assign a stomp to midi switch itself to snapshots is awesome. I'm going to spend/waste a lot of time playing around with that. Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verne-Bunsen Posted September 6, 2016 Share Posted September 6, 2016 That's a pretty sick workaround. I prefer 10 stomp mode myself. So now having the option to assign a stomp to midi switch itself to snapshots is awesome. I'm going to spend/waste a lot of time playing around with that. Thank you! Credit goes to DI, I believe it was his clever proposition initially, but glad to share it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil_m Posted September 6, 2016 Share Posted September 6, 2016 That's a pretty sick workaround. I prefer 10 stomp mode myself. So now having the option to assign a stomp to midi switch itself to snapshots is awesome. I'm going to spend/waste a lot of time playing around with that. Thank you! One caveat with this workaround. I spent some time messing with this last week, and there are few issues. First of all, if you go into looper mode with this, you'll create a MIDI feedback loop. The reason for this is that the footswitches send out CC messages for each looper function. Right now, there's not a way to turn this functionality off. I have a MIDI Solutions Event Processor, so I was able to filter these messages out and get it to work. So basically, right now, if you use the looper, there's no way to make this trick work unless you have an external means of filtering the offending CCs. The other issue is the way the CC Value command works when you assign it to a footswitch. There's a bug right now that makes it so a specific CC value is saved with each snapshot. Beyond that, this value is treated an Instant Command, and it's shot out when the snapshot is triggered. For example, if you go into the Command Center and set up a footswitch for CC69, value 2 - that does call up Snapshot 3 (with the MIDI cable trick mentioned here). The issue is that the value for CC69 stays at 0 for the other snapshots until you go and change it in each one. So if you don't do that and hit this footswitch, you'll go to Snapshot 3, but upon loading Snapshot 3, CC69, Value 0 is shot out and you go right back to Snapshot 1. So the workaround is to go into the Command Center in each snapshot and make sure you set the CC69 value to be the same thing in every one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zooey Posted September 6, 2016 Share Posted September 6, 2016 That's just gross, sorry. Nice idea, but way more warts on it than I want to deal with, at least for now. We really need some other way of mixing switch types, and/or as I keep mentioning, having the Mode switch cycle through multiple different layouts instead of toggling between just two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil_m Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 That's just gross, sorry. Nice idea, but way more warts on it than I want to deal with, at least for now. Not something I actually use, but I just wanted to test it out after some folks said they were having problems with it on the Helix Facebook group. Really, the thing with the CC Value and saving the value per snapshot isn't a big deal, and the workaround is simple (takes about all of 10 seconds to do in the editor), but the thing with looper is a big deal and could be a deal-breaker for some people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vmoncebaiz Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 One caveat with this workaround. I spent some time messing with this last week, and there are few issues. First of all, if you go into looper mode with this, you'll create a MIDI feedback loop. The reason for this is that the footswitches send out CC messages for each looper function. Right now, there's not a way to turn this functionality off. I have a MIDI Solutions Event Processor, so I was able to filter these messages out and get it to work. So basically, right now, if you use the looper, there's no way to make this trick work unless you have an external means of filtering the offending CCs. I don't use the looper for anything performance based so thats not an issue for me. I can see how it might be for others though - I never even add it to presets. I have to add it in when I do feel like practicing with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vmoncebaiz Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 That's just gross, sorry. Nice idea, but way more warts on it than I want to deal with, at least for now. We really need some other way of mixing switch types, and/or as I keep mentioning, having the Mode switch cycle through multiple different layouts instead of toggling between just two. I agree, once the bug is fixed it will still be nice workaround, but I would love to see the ability to just assign the snapshots to any FS in Stomp mode. Honestly though, I've been completely satisfied just sitting in Snapshots mode this week. I thought it would be harder to give up the individual stomp mode than it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zooey Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 I've changed over to 4 snap and 4 stomp switches mode, and have been gradually converting my most-used patches to work that way. It's working pretty well, but I do also hit the Mode switch to access more stomps, which I definitely use. Helix Pro, with its 20 footswitches and scribble strips, should be about right (;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verne-Bunsen Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 I've migrated to 4 Stomps/4 Snaps as well, stomps on top, snaps on bottom. It is certainly adequate, especially when you incorporate a few things on switches accessible in Stomp mode just one click away. The thing that leaves it lacking for me is the wasted real estate. Most of my patches have just two or three snaps, the rest is handled with the stomps. That leaves one or two footswitches wasted as they are allocated to snaps that I don't have. I think the ability to assign snaps to footswitches in Stomp mode would be the ultimate. I started an Ideascale topic on it, vote it on up if you're of like-mind! http://line6.ideascale.com/a/dtd/Option-to-assign-Snapshots-to-switches-in-10-Switch-Stomp-Mode/833058-23508 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmydlan Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 I am unable to change the view of the snapshots. Either all are showing, or none. Even though I change the buttons telling to show snapshots at the top and stom down, its not happening. Is there a bug or am I doing something wrong? I use the latest version of firmware on the helix (2.01) You can't assign snapshots to footswitches... There a few different ways to view snapshots, though. You can always get to snapshot mode by pressing the Bank Up and Bank Down footswitches simultaneously. You can also change Preset Mode to display snapshots - you can have all 8 footswitches show snapshots (effectively making preset mode the same as snapshot mode) or you can have the upper row of switches be 4 snapshots, and the lower row be 8 presets. Or you can have that reversed. Or you can have 4 stomp switches and 4 snapshots... Check out page 50 of the manual to get the full rundown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil_m Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 I am unable to change the view of the snapshots. Either all are showing, or none. Even though I change the buttons telling to show snapshots at the top and stom down, its not happening. Is there a bug or am I doing something wrong? I use the latest version of firmware on the helix (2.01) In Snapshot Mode, you'll always see 8 snapshots. The different view settings apply to what's displayed in Preset Mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HonestOpinion Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 In Snapshot Mode, you'll always see 8 snapshots. The different view settings apply to what's displayed in Preset Mode. Yep, sounds like "Snapshot Mode" (both Bank buttons pushed simultaneously). Selecting just one Bank button and then a preset should put you in the mode to reflect your "snapshots top - stomps bottom" view. Also this note from the manual regarding how you have the "Snapshot Mode Switches" parameter set. "If you don’t want Snapshot footswitches to disappear after selecting one, set "Global Settings > Footswitches" > Knob 4 (Snapshot Mode Switches) to “Manual Return.†In this case, Helix stays in Snapshot footswitch mode until you press FS6 (CANCEL). " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zadravec Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 You can assign a snapshot to a single. Click the menu button > Select Command Center. scroll to the switch you want For Command Select - HX Snapshot Behaviour - Press/Hold or Press/ release ; depending what you want Press - select desired snapshot Hold/Release - desired snapshot to switch back to. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codamedia Posted June 29, 2022 Share Posted June 29, 2022 On 6/28/2022 at 11:42 AM, zadravec said: You can assign a snapshot to a single. Click the menu button > Select Command Center. scroll to the switch you want For Command Select - HX Snapshot Behaviour - Press/Hold or Press/ release ; depending what you want Press - select desired snapshot Hold/Release - desired snapshot to switch back to. Correct... but please be aware this is a very new feature and you just posted this answer to a zombie thread from 2016. Nobody overlooked it back then, it simply didn't exist. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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