benifin Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 Hi all My nephew is keen on a HD 500 and when he gets it he wants me to set up a " cheap " [ ha ha :) ] Solid State Amp and guitar cab for him. Basically, he wants to - use all the efx / pre amp simulations / power amp simulations but totally remove / disable all the Cab Simulations and Mic simulations .... then run in to a flat SS Amp and then into a real guitar speaker .... so .... => can the individual HD 500 patches [ or globally ] be run with everything enabled and active but with all the Cab Simulations and Mic simulations totally off ? My thanks in advance, Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremybnz Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 Yes, just need to disable the cabs on the amp blocks in each patch :) Altho' if you're running proper FRFR then you want the cab sims... if you were running a power amp into a normal guitar cab you would disable them :) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benifin Posted September 15, 2016 Author Share Posted September 15, 2016 Yes, just need to disable the cabs on the amp blocks in each patch :) Altho' if you're running proper FRFR then you want the cab sims... if you were running a power amp into a normal guitar cab you would disable them :) Many thanks - my bad :) ..... Ive fixed/edited my op So just to confirm:- -> disabling the Cab on each patch gets rid of it fully (?) .... or does it leave some sort of " Live Cab " / " Flat / Transparent " Mic in the chain ? Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benifin Posted September 15, 2016 Author Share Posted September 15, 2016 Many thanks. Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benifin Posted September 15, 2016 Author Share Posted September 15, 2016 Actually he just called me and said he plans to disable the cabs / mics and plug the HD 500 in to either a Logidy EPSi IR player -or- an AMT Pangaea IR player .... this way he can use 3rd party IR's. Im a bit curous now ..... seems like a potenitally really great idea / option ...... -> anyone else already done this ? if so -> big improvement ? small improvement ? no improvement ? Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillBee Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 Call me crazy but shouldn't your nephew at least try the HD first? If he hasn't created one tone yet or has settled on an amplification method its putting the "cart before the horse". I've been running IRs through a GSP1101 and yep some sound great but some sound like lollipop. IRs can expand the tonal possibilities but if you can't create a decent tone to start with they are not going to magically fix things. IMO of course. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pianoguyy Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 There is no on/off button. But, when designing patches, you just don't put them in your chain. Much like saying "can I turn off all of the Flangers" - just don't put them in there. But here is my assessment ---- If you aren't using the modeling, you are buying the wrong unit. It's sort of like buying a Ferrari and only driving it to the end of the driveway to get your mail. The fx of the unit aren't bad, but there are units that cost a lot less that don't have the models in them. You'll be paying for a lot of stuff that you just aren't using. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremybnz Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 Actually he just called me and said he plans to disable the cabs / mics and plug the HD 500 in to either a Logidy EPSi IR player -or- an AMT Pangaea IR player .... this way he can use 3rd party IR's. Im a bit curous now ..... seems like a potenitally really great idea / option ...... -> anyone else already done this ? if so -> big improvement ? small improvement ? no improvement ? Ben I use an AMT Pangaea, I tried the HD without cabs and into an IR loader on my laptop, sound is way better so I got the Pangaea! I put in an amp block, disable the cab, put the effects loop block after the amp, Pangaea in the loop, job done! I have the loop set to line level (switch on back of HD) and the pangaea set to that as well, it handles it fine, however the EPSi needs a much lower level, you need to set it to stomp and lower the send level on the effects loop and raise the return by the same amount... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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