pol2711 Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 Hi guys, after many attempts to have my Helix going with a frfr system, decided to go back to the poweramp of a tube amp. Tried kaziliions of IR's (bought as well free) , CAB's, frequency cuts, patches (bought as well free) with my L2M but never got satisfied. Play classic rock in a band and that creamy crunchtone is very hard to get. At home at a decent level it sounds good to me. All the Helix members here, on youtube and facebook are having my tone and sold them to me. My L2M cranked up in a band.......far away form that tone I want. I'm aware of the fletcher-munson (or something like that), down with bass/gain live, adjusting EQ and global EQ.... but now I'm al little fed up with it. Last week I had to do a gig in a last minute and there was a frfr system on the ground. Connect my helix (have the 110 Ohm XLR cable and 1/4 and...) and one muddy horrible tone. Use a Variax JTV 69 Ajusting didn't help (global:line/instrument/EQ...). Clean was OK as well as my lead tone. The crunchy ones: horrible mess. Most of my songs: mess The best tone for me I'm getting now with my Helix: JTV -> Helix -> 1/4 out -> return twin reverb. no cabs, IR's. Using full amp. Only pre amp is also a nogo for me. Tried L2M patches form a board memeber, also not the sound Dialing in a simple ACDC sound and via my computer: sounds OK In a band: NOK Cannot imagine that someone else here is not having the same issue as I'm facing now. Like to here what the solution was Thanx! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DunedinDragon Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 I can't even imagine how your experience could be so dramatically different than everyone else's, unless you're listening for something entirely different than us. I play plenty of classic rock type stuff from Joe Walsh to Queen to Stones to AC/DC...you name it, and I have no problem at all getting the tone I want. But then again what I'm listening for is a studio version of the sound, or what I might hear coming off of a recording... and maybe that's what's throwing you. Undoubtedly those classic rock tones are going to be much clearer and better articulated than a traditional live amp which tends to "mush" things together with the environment a bit more than an FRFR setup. But even then I could never imagine calling it a "horrible mess". But I guess it all depends on your subjective definition of what "a horrible mess" is.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malhavok Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 Man, you use whatever gets the sound you want. Don't worry if someone else thinks it's "right" or not. Your own ears are the only judge of right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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