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I have an Orange Micro Terror connected to a 1X12" Celestion. Incredible sound which creates the sustain that I need while recording. What I would like to do is :

1) record a wet track in Pro Tools using my Helix (that is easy)

2) send a dry signal out of my Helix into the Orange so that I can take advantage of the sustain. 

If I use the 1/4 inch out on the back of my Helix into the guitar in of the Orange - the signal is a wet Helix signal which is not a good thing coming out of the Celestion.

 

The Orange has 1 INPUT for guitar - 1 our for the cab / speaker - and a small Aux In - like a small headphone plug that is used to connect to Mp3 players / laptops etc.

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Edit to my first post. I have created a 2nd path in Helix which is dry. Then connected a TS cable from the 1/4 inch out of the Helix to the Orange. On the 2nd path I have I guitar selected as input  and 1/4 as the out. 1st path is guitar in to SPDIF out to my DAW interface (that is fine)

I am getting a lot of noise out of the 14 inch to the Orange which is coming out of the Celestion. I think the Orange is not effected by the 1st path (Hiwatt selected) as I hear the Hiwatt through my DAW monitors. I do hear the Orange is working as should but a lot of noise from the Helix. Any thoughts?

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If you're going into the Orange's guitar input from the Helix, even if it's a dry signal it's a pre-amped dry signal from the Helix which is well above the normal input range of a guitar port.  Additionally, the signal is then being routed through the Micro Terror's pre-amp stage and then it's amplifier stage, so you're dealing with a double pre-amped signal.  I'd be surprised if you DIDN'T have a lot of noise.

 

Probably the easiest way to accomplish what you want is to take a second signal wet or dry out of the Helix into an FRFR powered speaker and get your sustain off of that.

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Thx Dunedin, would an Orange amp with an effects loop in the back work?

 

Edit: just watched this video and he has his helix hooked up to an amp just as I did with no unwanted noise. Check it out stay ring at about 2:10 into the video.

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Thx Dunedin, would an Orange amp with an effects loop in the back work?

 

Edit: just watched this video and he has his helix hooked up to an amp just as I did with no unwanted noise. Check it out stay ring at about 2:10 into the video.

Any thoughts here ?? I have read in other posts and replies here that the Helix will always be noisy when coming out of the 1/4 in out in the back with a dry signal to an external amp/speaker cab or combo amp. As I stated - the video he shows above starting at about 2:10 using the 4CM indicates no noise at all. Not happening for me with the same setup? 

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