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Running Helix with 2 valve amps or 1 amp and 1 FRFR

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Before buying my Helix I was running a large board into two amps.

 

I know I can easily run the helix into 2 frfr speakers but I was wondering if I can use it into two amps without any issues obviously just as a pedalboard / no amp models. Can the Helix flip the phase of one of its outputs?

 

If I decided to sell one of my amps would it be possible to combine on amp and one FRFR speaker? Would I have phase issues here?

 

I currently blend a fender and vox AC30 but it would be cool to keep the fender as a base tone and add a vox or a Marshall or whatever other amp I fancy to that mix via the helix.

 

Thanks

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If you are not using 4CM, you can go into 4 different amps or FRFRish speakers, or a combination. You have 4 separate outputs to play with. 

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Cool but can you flip the phase of one of the outputs or would I need to add more equipment to do that?

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I've not seen any phase flipping controls on the Helix. I haven't looked for them but I don't think you can without more gear. 

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Cool but can you flip the phase of one of the outputs or would I need to add more equipment to do that?

Nope

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Ok that's manageable as I can keep my old splitter. Has anyone tried combining an FRFR with a valve amp?

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Good question on phase.  I've never run into that as a problem though.  I run one FRFR and a tube amp.  Never had any type of phase issue.

 

I run a small tube amp and an alto 210 or 212.  Here is the kicker though-I do not run everything through both.  I typically run volume, wah, compressor, pre-amp, amp block, eq, reverb to the tube amp through send 1.  The path continues along, includes the previously mentioned and adds modulation effects, delays, cab block to FRFR.  This way I have dirt and reverb in one send, dirt reverb modulation, delay in the other.  Makes for a nice full sound.  When I play live I mic the tube amp to one channel on the board, and either pull direct out of the alto, or direct out of the helix to another channel on the board.

 

I also run a separate path (2) for acoustic guitar for another player in the band.  That goes direct to FRFR/board. 

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Cool, what amp do you use? Would you mind sharing how you use your setup please? Do you blend your amp with a selection of amp models on the helix?

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After you have Split the Signal Path, Helix's Merge Block (Knob 5 Parameter) allows reversal of Signal Path B's Polarity, should you wish to Invert it's Phase where it converges back with Path A.

 

See Helix 2.0 User Guide Rev D PDF Page 31.

 

I do not know of another place where Helix offers a Phase reversal parameter.

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Cool, what amp do you use? Would you mind sharing how you use your setup please? Do you blend your amp with a selection of amp models on the helix?

Savage Macht 12.  Just loaded the patch to custom tone. Golden Arch.

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After you have Split the Signal Path, Helix's Merge Block (Knob 5 Parameter) allows reversal of Signal Path B's Polarity, should you wish to Invert it's Phase where it converges back with Path A.

 

See Helix 2.0 User Guide Rev D PDF Page 31.

 

I do not know of another place where Helix offers a Phase reversal parameter.

Great thanks!

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Savage Macht 12. Just loaded the patch to custom tone. Golden Arch.

I'll check it out, thanks

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Can you use the helix as an ABY switch between 2 amps?

 

Cheers

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On 4/5/2017 at 8:14 AM, taylorbeats said:

Good question on phase.  I've never run into that as a problem though.  I run one FRFR and a tube amp.  Never had any type of phase issue.

 

I run a small tube amp and an alto 210 or 212.  Here is the kicker though-I do not run everything through both.  I typically run volume, wah, compressor, pre-amp, amp block, eq, reverb to the tube amp through send 1.  The path continues along, includes the previously mentioned and adds modulation effects, delays, cab block to FRFR.  This way I have dirt and reverb in one send, dirt reverb modulation, delay in the other.  Makes for a nice full sound.  When I play live I mic the tube amp to one channel on the board, and either pull direct out of the alto, or direct out of the helix to another channel on the board.

 

I also run a separate path (2) for acoustic guitar for another player in the band.  That goes direct to FRFR/board. 

 

Thanks for the info, but any chance you could provide a bit more detail?  Yours is the closest post I've seen anywhere that addresses a simple wet/dry solution with 2 tube amps.  What cabling are you using?  What is your signal path?  How are you splitting/merging?  To quote the Necromonger Lord Commander from The Chronicles of Riddick, "These are the things I need to know!".    :)

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Guitar-Helix Input -Volume Block-Compressor-Pre-Amp or Amp Block-eq-reverb-send block to small tube amp (no return)-path continues-mod-delay-cab block or IR-to Alto All on one path.

 

acoustic on separate path.

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