NickBosworth Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 Please could anyone give me any tips when using pre-amps with 4cm? I have the Helix all set up in 4CM with my Egnater Rebel 30MKii (and it works perfectly) but when I use a preamp (in this case The Litigator or any of the Tweeds) I can't seem to get as much of a 'dirty' tone as I would expect.... Cheers Nick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbuhajla Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 Please could anyone give me any tips when using pre-amps with 4cm? I have the Helix all set up in 4CM with my Egnater Rebel 30MKii (and it works perfectly) but when I use a preamp (in this case The Litigator or any of the Tweeds) I can't seem to get as much of a 'dirty' tone as I would expect.... Cheers Nick Can you post a pic of what your signal chain looks like on the Helix? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickBosworth Posted April 28, 2017 Author Share Posted April 28, 2017 Can you post a pic of what your signal chain looks like on the Helix? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickBosworth Posted April 28, 2017 Author Share Posted April 28, 2017 Sadly I don't have technical knowledge to post a pic but the preamp is located after the send and return block of the loop on the edit screen. If I put the preamp block in front of the send return block then I get a gainier tone but it's then hitting the preamp of my guitar amp... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbuhajla Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 If you want to bypass your Egnator's preamp and run a Helix preamp model into your Egnator's power amp section, you need to: 1. bypass the send block going into the front end of your Egnator 2. bypass the return block coming from your effect send of the Egnator a. or bypass the single send/return block from steps 1/2 3. turn ON the Helix preamp block that is sitting in front of the send block going to your Egnator's effect return. If you are just turning on a preamp block without bypassing the send/return block to your Egnator preamp, the Egnator preamp is coloring your tone along with the preamp model you chose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbuhajla Posted April 28, 2017 Share Posted April 28, 2017 Likewise if you want to run with your Egnator preamp, turn on the send/return block, and bypass the preamp model block. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickBosworth Posted April 28, 2017 Author Share Posted April 28, 2017 Thanks for the help...just not sure what that might look like. Sorry I'm a middle aged technofool. Cheers Nick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickBosworth Posted May 1, 2017 Author Share Posted May 1, 2017 Here's a video I made outlining my problem. Any help much appreciated. Thanks you https://www.facebook.com/groups/line6helixusergroup/permalink/712272622289747/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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