FarleyUK Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Hi all, I'm trying to replicate this rig: http://images.equipboard.com/uploads/source/image/9606/whitesnake_doug_aldrich_guitar_rig_2009.jpg?v=1424625771 One thing I thought about, is that in the Helix we typically have the amp block followed by a cab / IR block... but I'm wondering about having the cab or IR block as the last block in the signal path, kind of similar to how the rig in the link would work (looks like all FX are front of amp as well I think).Anyone tried it with cab at the end of the path? To me it would seem more like a natural thing, as the signal would hit the amp, then the 'FX loop' area in the helix between the amp and cab. ...or am I over-thinking this? :) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradlake Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 It can be done easily, but I don’t know how/if tone will actually be affected...give it a try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradlake Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 ..is that Doug Aldrich ‘s rig? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbuhajla Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Looks like drives, rack wah, eq, other pedals are in front of amp and TC/Boss rack effects are before the power amp and sent to a "wet" cabinet. You should be able to replicate something similar in Helix, and it should be much easier since it is all internal routing in the digital world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewolf48 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Yes people have tried it and some say that effects such as sprint reverb sound much better between amp and cab - the difference is that eq is applied by the cab to result of the effects. The potential problem is that stereo effects (if you are using them) will be collapsed back to mono by a single cab/IR block but should be good with a dual cab block (dual IR doesn't exist - you have to split the path to get a stereo IR) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterHamm Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Yes people have tried it and some say that effects such as sprint reverb sound much better between amp and cab - the difference is that eq is applied by the cab to result of the effects. The difference is subtle, imho, but it's there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarleyUK Posted September 13, 2017 Author Share Posted September 13, 2017 Playing around with it, and I'm running our of DSP.... it's not possible to have a dual-amp path 1, with a split to a dry output, and path 2a being wet with dual cabs.... Hmm, need to play around some more.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbuhajla Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Try: Path 1 > drives/pedals > split > 1A > amp 1> cab/IR 1> dry output 1B > volume pedal > route to path 2 Path 2 > amp 2 > wet effects > cab/IR 2 > wet output 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarleyUK Posted September 13, 2017 Author Share Posted September 13, 2017 Thanks! I've got something close(ish) just using one amp model - https://imgur.com/gallery/zRLhu That's using the eq before the amp to simulate the Furman PQ3 he uses, with similar(ish) settings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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