30sos Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 Hey, all. Wondering if I really need a Line 6 cab with the Spider V head or if a Marshall or Crate or whatever would work? Wasn’t sure if the L6 cab was more of a full frequency thing/designed to replicate the different types of tones, or if it’s pretty much a typical 4x12? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psarkissian Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 Just make certain the impedance of the amp outputs and speaker inputs are matched, 8-Ohm to 8-Ohm, 16-Ohm to 16-Ohm, which ever they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
30sos Posted October 13, 2017 Author Share Posted October 13, 2017 Thanks for the quick reply. So the speakers weren’t specialty selected or designed specifically for this amp? Any cab will be (roughly) the same? And thanks for bringing up ohms. If you can’t get something that matches exactly, can the ohms on the amp be higher or do the ohms on the speaker need to be higher? I heard one was safe (or safer), but can never remember which. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psarkissian Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 It's all about impedance matching when it comes to amp Heads. All our amp heads should have something about that in their user manuals. Also there should be something about this in the Knowledge Base I prepared some time back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkMantle Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 Hi 30sos There's a great explanation if you want to read it in full here.https://music.stackexchange.com/questions/25434/using-an-8-ohm-amplifier-output-with-a-16-ohm-cabinet But here's the short answer. :) It is safe to use a higher impedance cabinet on a lower impedance amp output. For example 8-ohm amp into a 16-ohm cabinet. However, since you're not powering the cabinet fully, it may affect the tone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
30sos Posted October 14, 2017 Author Share Posted October 14, 2017 Thanks for the info and links. So to confirm the original question, there’s nothing special about the L6 cab/speakers? Another 4x12 will sound roughly the same/as good? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkMantle Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 Different cabinets can affect the sound. I suspect the Spider cabinet is designed to be as "neutral" as possible so the cab emulation comes through, but any quality cab should sound good. Though they may not work as well for the acoustic presets (if you play acoustic through them) since the Spider cab also has tweeters in it. I found this, which seems to indicate there's a switch for non-Spider cabinets. http://line6.com/support/page/kb/_/amplifiers/spider-v/spider-v-240hc-cabinet-modeling-r853 It seems to indicate there's a switch/setting for non-spider cabs to help with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
30sos Posted October 15, 2017 Author Share Posted October 15, 2017 Perfect! Thanks for sharing this link. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vmoncebaiz Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 The Spider V 240HC does have a switch on the back that disables the cabinet modeling. This is meant to be used with cabs other than the Line 6 4x12. DarkMantle was correct in saying the Spider cab is meant to be neutral in order to benefit from the software cab models. You can certainly still use the Spider V 240HC's cab modeling feature with 3rd party cabs, just be aware that it might not always be ideal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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