timtim- 0 Posted December 22, 2017 Hey guys! Just got my Helix LT delivered today, and I'm super stoked to dive into it. I've had an Eleven Rack for several years, but I was never fully satisfied with it. I've seen where some people haven't exactly loved the Helix at first until they figured out that setting "x" needed to be configured in a certain way. SO...That being said, do any of the more experienced users have any tips, advice, things to avoid etc.? Any and all advice welcome as I'm hoping to avoid some beginner pitfalls if at all possible. Thanks, and happy holidays! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
prudenjim 15 Posted December 22, 2017 I am by no means a Vet or expert and much closer to your experience level with Helix. But a few thoughts to pass on from a few months of ownership. - Don’t let great get in the way of good. PLenty of time to chase nirvana and that perfect tone in your head. But chasing it from the beginning gives you tunnel vision and you ignore some cool options - read the manual, then read it again. Keep a list of things you want to learn more about or better understand. Half of my list I deleted because what I thought I needed to learn changed. Or that I learned it along the way. - Keep in mind us Helix tone-chasers can be split into two groups; those looking to create (or re-create) their own tone and those that are looking to mimic an artist-specific or song-specific tone. The latter want a solution....now.. :). That will lead some to third party markets where for a coupe bucks someone has replicated a tone. On their guitar. Tweaking is involved. The group chasing their own tone might love to tinker more. Sound engineers would be a third group actually. - the forum is packed with unbeliebeable help, experience and knowledge. Searching it can be daunting but it is there. - Speaking of hours, I am finding it to be a huge learning curve, but a fun one. I’ve learned more about effects and outcomes not specific to Helix. Give it time. - Back to not letting great get in the way of good. There are thousands of combinations and expertise in each amp, cabinet, mic, effect, etc. The box is a collection of hundreds of rabbit holes you can fall into. Step back out, crank up the volume and have fun. I’m finding it is more an evolution. - YouTube is a great resource.... as always. Just some thoughts but I think you are going to be quite pleased with what you can accomplish. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steelstringer 22 Posted December 22, 2017 Search “freeset Friday “ on YouTube. I have used many of Scott’s tips to get great tones and interesting ideas for the Helix. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PeterHamm 651 Posted December 22, 2017 Make your own patches. Period. That is the key for every one of these, and Helix is probably the easiest to do that with ever. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zooey 265 Posted December 22, 2017 ^^^ this. Try everything you'd try in the real world, plus a million. You can't break it by plugging any block into any other one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DunedinDragon 934 Posted December 22, 2017 That "X" setting is a bit elusive without knowing your intended use for your Helix. It's different for studio work than it is for live work, and it's different for live work depending on whether you're using a FRFR speakers and direct FOH setup, or using 4CM through a traditional amp and cab, or through a power amp with traditional cabinet. Lots of great tips for any of those, but only useful for your specific intended application. That being said, the one tip I would give you above all others is to avoid the temptation to use global EQ settings. There's nothing you can do in global EQ that you can't do in a patch. But once you apply global EQ you can't undo it in any of your patches. As stated in the documentation, reserve global EQ for variations in acoustics for a given room and you'll be safe. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
silverhead 8,809 Posted December 22, 2017 I suggest that you avoid using IRs until you have thoroughly explored the Helix features and capabilities, especially the cab and mic models. IRs can be a great tone shaping tool for some but the sheer volume of possibilities is a learning curve in itself and, imho, better left until later. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DirtFarmer 9 Posted December 22, 2017 Not a vet at all, but I've put probably 1000+ hours playing on it. Maybe 5% of that time turning knobs. My thoughts are you don't need to be a pro or vet to get killer tones. I spent some time up front reading and watching youtube videos on how to set up patches. I use all the stock options, no impulses or anything added. Stock cabs sound amazing to me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vmoncebaiz 45 Posted December 22, 2017 Every time I start thinking I might be a vet, I learn something new and it gets me to look at how I use Helix in some new way. There's usually a few different ways to accomplish something in Helix . So, my advice would be "Don't get stuck thinking anything has to be done a certain way". That and "Use High-Cuts" for stock cabs or IRs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theflyingalamo 1 Posted December 22, 2017 Join the 11000 member strong Facebook group if you use FB. You'll have 5937 answers for every question you have. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mdmayfield 184 Posted December 23, 2017 If coming from traditional amps to a FRFR setup, whenever you are dissatisfied with your sound, investigate overall volume first. (i.e. Channel Volume, Gain at the output of the Helix, Master Volume, the volume controls on your speaker.) Our ears play tricks on us when it comes to overall volume - the exact same signal can sound very different at different levels, and yet it often doesn't seem to be because of volume (even though it is). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
soundog 491 Posted December 23, 2017 There are so many variables its good to focus on some "stripped down" settings and presets you can rely and build upon. Start simple. Maybe start with a simple patch for clean, one for crunch, one for high-gain. > Experiment with your guitar volume and tone settings along with a chosen amp/cab choice to learn how the volume, tone, gain settings inter-react. > Create some stripped-down presets using just amp and cabinet (or IR). > Afterwards, copy a stripped-down preset to a blank preset, and use it to build more elaborate presets by adding FX blocks, snapshots etc. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amsdenj 586 Posted December 24, 2017 Start with what you already know and reproduce it in Helix. Get to know how to do that. Then explore setups by professionals you like and reproduce those. Then start building your own tones for your own purposes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joepeggio 76 Posted December 26, 2017 all of the above plus..... Make your presets at high (gig) volume and with speakers (FRFR, PA, etc) off the floor on poles. My first mistake was using FRFR (PA) speakers in the wedge position on the floor. I ended up with thin shrill tone when going through PA with band. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites