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Cabinet modeling, turning it off?

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I just had the painful epiphany of why my sound has been torturing me for many years. I have the HD400 and have never been completely satisfied with my dirty tones, but have been ok w/my clean tones. I am playing through a Zilla 2x12 closed cabinet. I finally realized I have all the cabs in my patches turned on and thought that was ok. Now I'm realizing that I probably shouldn't have had thoseturned on. Queue the Homer D'oh!!!

 

I have a Helix LT on the way. I am assuming the advice would be that I don't turn on the cabinet modeling feature when dialing in my tones. Appreciate the help. I won't be recording with this - it will strictly be a working gig tool.

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In Helix you can simply not add a cab block to the signal chain. You can choose to add only an amp model with no cab.

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also, if you use existing (or paid-for) presets, you can simply bypass the cab block and leave it there if you want to turn it back on in the future (going direct to FOH).

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OK so if I'm using the effects return of a tube combo amp, NO cab right? But going into a PA speaker, use the cab? Thanks!

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OK so if I'm using the effects return of a tube combo amp, NO cab right? But going into a PA speaker, use the cab? Thanks!

 

Yup. Pretty much.

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Theoretically this is so.

But if adding a cab anyway makes it sound even better to you, go for it!

There are no rules, do whatever gives you the tone you're after.
 

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I just had the painful epiphany of why my sound has been torturing me for many years. I have the HD400 and have never been completely satisfied with my dirty tones, but have been ok w/my clean tones. I am playing through a Zilla 2x12 closed cabinet. I finally realized I have all the cabs in my patches turned on and thought that was ok. Now I'm realizing that I probably shouldn't have had thoseturned on. Queue the Homer D'oh!!!

 

I have a Helix LT on the way. I am assuming the advice would be that I don't turn on the cabinet modeling feature when dialing in my tones. Appreciate the help. I won't be recording with this - it will strictly be a working gig tool.

There is no right/wrong/should/shouldn't with modelers. I did the exact same thing for years with the HD500X...because I liked it that way. Even running into a power amp and Marshall cab, using just the amp model with no cab sims sounded horrific to me. So I did what worked, and in the end that's all that matters.

 

The same is true of Helix...try it both ways and see what you prefer. If it sounds good, it is good. How you got it there is largely irrelevant.

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