HonestOpinion Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 The appeal of purchasing an LT as a backup for my Helix has now become almost impossible to resist. This update just forces every other device I was considering to move down the list in priority. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glideman Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 The appeal of purchasing an LT as a backup for my Helix has now become almost impossible to resist. This update just forces every other device I was considering move down the list in priority. I did that a couple months ago. Take it to every gig. Use the LT at church gigs. Use Helix floor with LT in the Yukon XL in case of Helix death mid show in the rock band. Church is close enough to the house to run get the backup in 5 minutes... Hehehe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jman64 Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 This looks to be a fantastic update! Some where down the lone throw in a polyphonic pitch shifter like the Digitech Drop and you will have covered every thing I could ask for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guitarzman Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 Spectacular update looking forward to 2.50 Thank yoouu Line 6 :lol: B) :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dshow Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 That's a nice update for sure. I'm pretty happy with Helix as it is now and everythig they add it's just another Sweetie. I must confess that I'm pretty happy with the old Reverbs, since I'm a bit old-school and love 63 Spring Reverb - but curious how the new ones sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dshow Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 Are the Legacy Effects all new or have some of the existing Reverbs and Delays moved to the Legacy Category? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plumber Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 It would be interesting to know if the legacy effects (thank you Line 6 for these) sound any better via Helix improved AD/DA converters than those in the M series? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CraigGT Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 Are the Legacy Effects all new or have some of the existing Reverbs and Delays moved to the Legacy Category? Both, the legacy effects are new to Helix but ported from older pedals, the existing reverbs in Helix were originally ported in too so they're being moved to legacy and new ones added. Craig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klangmaler Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 Helix Floor, Rack/Control, and LT now include a library of effects from M13, M9, M5, DL4, DM4, FM4, and MM4. These appear in a new "Legacy" subcategory in the model list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrViv Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 Oh thanks Line 6... I missed the Boost Comp so much!! I was going to buy a M5 just for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PierM Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 Anyone knows if it's coming later today, or it's just next week? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealZap Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 existing reverbs moved to legacy area.... but it wont affect your current patches. Are the Legacy Effects all new or have some of the existing Reverbs and Delays moved to the Legacy Category? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealZap Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 Legacy is legacy... no sub categories for mono/stereo they didn't exist in those categories in the M-Series, we just knew some things were stereo and most weren't.... Thanks for the info, I assume there is a mono, and a stereo folder under legacy that houses these. Like it is now, but just under the legacy section? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dshow Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 existing reverbs moved to legacy area.... but it wont affect your current patches. OK thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erniedenov Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 I've often felt that Line 6 abandoned some great features from older products when they released newer ones. Not true anymore! I'm excited that all my favorite effects from my Vetta and my M13 will now be in my Helix. Excellent news! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lachdanan0121 Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 Legacy is legacy... no sub categories for mono/stereo they didn't exist in those categories in the M-Series, we just knew some things were stereo and most weren't....I see. So either it will be trial & error to know which of each model is mono, or stereo. OR... I can just hope each model will have some sort of label, or icon stating mono, or stereo. I appreciate the responses on the matter. Thank you for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealZap Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 you can see mono stereo details for the M series effects here: http://line6.com/support/index.php?app=core&module=attach§ion=attach&attach_id=474 I see. So either it will be trial & error to know which of each model is mono, or stereo.OR...I can just hope each model will have some sort of label, or icon stating mono, or stereo.I appreciate the responses on the matter. Thank you for that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R_Z1 Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 Greetings. As a noob to this site, I just need to ask one question. The 2.50 update info shows to be posted above back in 2016. Does that mean someone just does an edit to the post for each upcoming update? Sorry if it's a dumb question. Thanks! Ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradlake Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 Greetings. As a noob to this site, I just need to ask one question. The 2.50 update info shows to be posted above back in 2016. Does that mean someone just does an edit to the post for each upcoming update? Sorry if it's a dumb question. Thanks! Ron Yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R_Z1 Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 Yes Ok thanks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bryaneaves Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 This is a joke, right? ...Right? I wanted better reverbs, and a Metal Zone, and I got both of those (even if the Metal Zone is a legacy version), so I'm happy. I also know it's not previously been physically possible to ship a Helix update without having to include extra Marshall amps, so I admire the fact that they managed to get away with only doing a Marshall clone this time around. ;) I'm not too familiar with the legacy names. Which one is the "Metal Zone"? You got me excited with that so I went back to the list and don't see it. With all the things I love about Helix I just cannot get an Eruption sound that I like. Every time someone wants me to play it I have to go grab the Boss GT from my son which I gave him after buying the Helix. I've been thinking all along a touch of Metal Zone is what this sound is missing. Hoping it really is there by a different name...Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAmartin Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 I missed the Dimension D, the Metal Zone and the Phasers... But just porting old tech to a new platform is not my cup of tea. Maybe they`ll improve some of this fx and take them to HX quality in the future. Thumbs up for the Friedman, the Lone Star and the new HX Reverbs. Hope they include the high gain monsters soon regardless of what old wankers say about that. Thanks DI for everything and looking forward to hearing from the 2.50 update soon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverhead Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 ... Hope they include the high gain monsters soon regardless of what old wankers say about that.... HaHa!! I consider myself one of those guys. But I don't disparage your desire for those bee-buzzers and I hope you get them. I already have way more options in Helix that I could ever fully explore and use. (Is bee-buzzer a fair trade for wanker? At least I was talking about objects, not people!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lachdanan0121 Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 Hope they include the high gain monsters soon regardless of what old wankers say about that.Agreed. Some people refer to them as "bees in a can." but some of us do more than just clean play, honky tonk, or slightly overdriven rockabilly. I do all sorts of music styles including metal. Many of us would like, and appreciate, more nuanced choices on the ballsy side of amps with near as much overlap as the low-to-mid gain models in the helix. I'd like the XTC, and some more Engl personally. I think they will add more high gain goodness for us throughout the year, but I wouldn't go expecting it in a single update. To be completely fair, just a couple more high gain monsters, (like the ones I mentioned above) is all I want out of amp models, other than say some unique amps (like the cartographer) or L6 original creations. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAmartin Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 HaHa!! I consider myself one of those guys. But I don't disparage your desire for those bee-buzzers and I hope you get them. I already have way more options in Helix that I could ever fully explore and use. (Is bee-buzzer a fair trade for wanker? At least I was talking about objects, not people!) Hahaha... My comment was not aimed at you dear Silverhead... I wouldn`t like to speak on behalf of the metalheads using the Helix out there, but I do know that many of them will agree that during the last updates the Line 6 team has put the mid-gain boutique amps as top priority and left us with the will to see some more high gain monsters which were included in the POD X3 such as the Diezels and the Bogners... There was an old wanker who made fun of a comment I posted saying he was more tired of reading about the Helix not doing any metal than reading about the tuner`s lack of precision... I believe those comments are definitely imprudent and childish... It`s really easy to say that behind a computer screen 12,000 miles away from where I live and mock other people. But what can I say? Old wankers have to deal with the fact that they`re closer to the harp that their guitars... Hahahaha. Just a saying from where I come from. Greetings to all of those who respect the other customers paying good money in order to feel satisfied with their products. I do believe "bee-buzzer" is a fair trade for "wanker"... I`ll add "meat grinder" to the comment in order to make it sound more masculine and metal!!! Bless ya Line 6!!!! ps: The "Evil Randy" amp might be an outstanding addition to the amp modeling world for it has never been digitally reproduced... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbuhajla Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 With all the things I love about Helix I just cannot get an Eruption sound that I like... Have you seen this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverhead Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 .... Old wankers have to deal with the fact that they`re closer to the harp that their guitars... Hahahaha. ... That's a great line! I think I'll use it as I grow my fingernails in preparation for my future life(?) as a harpist! :lol: I fully expect that there are lots of hi-gain harps in hell! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bryaneaves Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 Have you seen this? I downloaded this. I think I've downloaded all of them. In my opinion this one is the most authentic sounding, so I certainly see why you posted it. This guy did an amazing job. I love everything about the Helix, but this one sound is my elusive white whale. Years ago I had a boss GT-10 and found a patch online called VanH'1 Phsr/Dly. It was the most amazing sound I had ever heard in a modeler. It was my go to sound for Eruption or any other liquid metal solo. When I upgraded to the Boss Gt-100 I couldn't find the patch for that model. So I wrote down every setting on the GT-10 and surprisingly the GT100 was a perfect match. I've been trying to reproduce it on the Helix. The best I can describe it is take the one you've posted here and make it bigger and more liquid. There's more reverb but the sound isn't washed away. The bass is strong and the highs scream loud and clear with sustain that goes on forever. I don't know if this makes any sense. It's just a big roomy sound that's neither crunch nor fuzz. It's somewhere in the middle with the right amount of gain, sustain, and responsiveness(?) to make it play like butter. Every time I get close to the sound it's washed away. I've been thinking something like a metal zone might be what it needs to cut through the wash. Anyway, don't want to get the thread off topic. My eyes perked up when I saw someone say MZ is included in the new update. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisinon2 Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 I fully expect that there are lots of hi-gain harps in hell! Strings are razor wire though, and you can only play it through an old Crate...bring gloves and earplugs. 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigolsparky Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 AVAILABLE SOON—DON'T LOOK FOR IT NOW! So look away, nothing to see here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brue58ski Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 Does anyone know, will the legacy effects all be under one category or will there be like Legacy distortion, Legacy Modulation, etc. I'm hoping for the latter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brue58ski Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 AVAILABLE SOON—DON'T LOOK FOR IT NOW! So look away, nothing to see here. This isn't the update you were looking for. (2.31) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradlake Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 in the meantime , those of you who are jonesing for some new reverbs, if yer lucky enough (?) to be a Mac user, yesterdays Logic Pro update has several very juicy ones. some with awesome visuals.......... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealZap Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 same organization as before except when you select reverbs for example you will now see MONO STEREO LEGACY your selection will produce relevant results. Does anyone know, will the legacy effects all be under one category or will there be like Legacy distortion, Legacy Modulation, etc. I'm hoping for the latter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brue58ski Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 same organization as before except when you select reverbs for example you will now see MONO STEREO LEGACY your selection will produce relevant results. I like it. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
getrichs Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 Yeah, the Logic Pro verb visuals look like some sort of Las Vegas fountain in the meantime , those of you who are jonesing for some new reverbs, if yer lucky enough (?) to be a Mac user, yesterdays Logic Pro update has several very juicy ones. some with awesome visuals.......... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faifaifai Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 So glad that I rushed to get the LT right after trying the Native demo. When I got the unit, my only wish was that they could have some more richer reverbs, and now we will have 5 new reverbs plus all the Legacy effects, can't wait to try the new update! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dacook2110 Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 Cool. I was just looking at the M series effects list. There are some great "sounding" effects in there, that I can't wait to try. Kudos to Line6 for bringing these to the Helix. Now all I need is for Line6 to give in to guilt and FINALLY announce a south paw JTV, and that would really make my day ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fiveways Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 Anyone know if any of the HX reverbs do Reverse/Bloom sounds? Seriously that would change my entire rig to just being a helix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spikey Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 you can see mono stereo details for the M series effects here: http://line6.com/support/index.php?app=core&module=attach§ion=attach&attach_id=474 Hey Zappy thanks for that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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