HaltingState Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 HI all. Not posted for a while. Just updated my Helix lt to firmware 2.54 and I need to ask a favour... Can someone confirm or let me know how the amp+cab list has changed. As previously mentioned, I'm a blind guy and whilst I can use lots of the Lt, when things change, I don't know what's where. I'd assumed new amp moddels just get appended to the list but having briefly had someone to look, it looks like the Line6 models are all moved towards the end. Is that right. So for example referring to my notes from previous firmware, 2.20 if I recall, further down the list, I have: PV Panama. Guitar. Peavey ® 5150 ®. Line 6 Elektrik. Guitar. Line 6 Original. So between the PV Panama and the first Line6, is that where I should expect to find all the newer models in latter firmware? Valve Queen, the new Texas and Placator, etc? Basically, when new amps are added. Where do they go in the list?I'm presuming the amp+cab list still starts with the Whowatt 100. Yeah, of course I can just pick one I like the sound of by ear but it's nice to know what amp I'm using as I read other people's experiences with them. OH yeah, I know there's a legasy category in the FX models now. Thanks Line6. Loads of goodies in there. I may sell my Filter pro now. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaltingState Posted June 3, 2018 Author Share Posted June 3, 2018 Oh yeah, I'll mention this in Ideascale but please Line6. I hope you never let the models list wrap. That is when you get to the bottom, a further downwards press on the joystick would take you back to the top. If that happened, it would pretty much kill off the usability of the Helix for people like me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerS Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 Hi Well, new amps are not appended at the end, they are inserted on different places in the list. Don't know if this is of any help but I made a list in the order they appears on the unit and made an X before the new ones. Its from 2.30 and 2.50 upgrades. Hope I catched all... If this works for you I can list the effects to. In summery the list starts with WhoWatt and the new ones are inserted on different places. If you are interested I have them alla set up in a pdf, don't know if that is a good format for you, if so let me know and I send it to you. WhoWatt 100 Hiwatt DR-103 Brill Soup Pro Supro S6616 Stone Age 185 Gibson EH-185 x Voltage Queen Victoria Electro King Tweed Blues Nrm Fender Bassman (normal channel) Tweed Blues Brt Fender Bassman (bright channel) US Small Tweed Fender Champ US Deluxe Nrm Fender Deluxe Reverb (normal channel) US Deluxe Vib Fender Deluxe Reverb (vibrato channel) US Double Nrm Fender Twin Reverb (normal channel) US Double Vib Fender Twin Reverb (vibrato channel) Mail Order Twin Silvertone 1484 Divided Duo ÷13 JRT 9/15 Interstate Zed Dr Z Route 66 x Derailed Ingrid Trainwreck Circuits Express Jazz Rivet 120 Roland JC-120 Jazz Chorus Essex A15 Vox AC-15 Essex A30 Vox AC-30 with top boost A30 Fawn Nrm Vox AC-30 Fawn (normal channel) A30 Fawn Brt Vox AC-30 Fawn (bright channel) Matchstick Ch1 Matchless DC30 (channel 1) Matchstick Ch2 Matchless DC30 (channel 2) Matchstick Jump Matchless DC30 (jumped) Mandarin 80 Orange OR80 Brit J45 Nrm Marshall JTM-45 (normal channel) Brit J45 Brt Marshall JTM-45 (bright channel) x Brit Trem Nrm Marshall Plexi Tremolo 50 x Brit Trem Brt Marshall Plexi Tremolo 50 x Brit Trem Jump Marshall Plexi Tremolo 50 Brit Plexi Nrm Marshall Super Lead 100 (normal channel) Brit Plexi Brt Marshall Super Lead 100 (bright channel) Brit Plexi Jump Marshall Super Lead 100 (jumped) Brit P75 Nrm Park 75 (normal channel) Brit P75 Brt Park 75 (bright channel) Brit 2204 Marshall JCM-800 x Placater Dirty Friedman BE-100, BE/HBE x Cartographer Ben Adrian Cartographer, 1977 Traynor YBA-1 German Mahadeva Bogner Shiva German Ubersonic Bogner Überschall x Cali Texas Ch2 MESA/Boogie Lonesta, Drive ch, Ch2 Cali IV Rhythm 1 MESA/Boogie Mark IV (channel I) Cali IV Rhythm 2 MESA/Boogie Mark IV (channel II) Cali IV Lead MESA/Boogie Mark IV (lead channel) Cali Rectifire MESA/Boogie Dual Rectifier x Archetype Clean Reed SmithArchon (clean channel) x Archetype Lead Paul Reed Smith Archon (lead channel) ANGL Meteor ENGL Fireball 100 Solo Lead Clean Soldano SLO-100 (clean channel) Solo Lead Crunch Soldano SLO-100 (crunch channel) Solo Lead OD Soldano SLO-100 (overdrive channel) PV Panama Peavey 5150 Line 6 Elektrik Line 6 Original Line 6 Doom Line 6 Original Line 6 Epic Line 6 Original Line 6 2204 Mod Line 6 Original Line 6 Fatality Line 6 Original x Line 6 Litigator Line 6 Original Line 6 Badonk' Line 6 Original, inspired by Big Bottom Chears //Per 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerS Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 Forgot to say - 2.54 has no new amps. It's only bugfixes //Per 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerS Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 He he... forgot I actually post the list in a different thread... must be the heat here. Here we go, download it from my dropbox - https://www.dropbox.com/s/e2jsnnqwscr6iml/Line6 Helix-Model Summary%2C 2%2C50-P1.0-01.pdf?dl=0 //Per Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaltingState Posted June 4, 2018 Author Share Posted June 4, 2018 Thanks @PerS Great. That's very helpful. :) I've copied that into my notes. Will be exploring some of these more later. I'd been using the Line6 Badonk a bit, thinking it was the Placater. It did sound more gainy than the youtube demoes of it I'd heard. Is good though. If you already have a text pdf of the effects models, I'd love to have a copy. Don't create one from scratch on my account though. Cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfsup1955 Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 Awesome PerS, appreciate the share on the compilation. Well done sir! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerS Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 Hi Glad you liked it. As I wrote three post up there is al link to the pdf-version, but as pdf is a bit unstructured to copy from I publish the effect and some more below, it will probarbly make it easier for you to copy. I have the data so no problem. To make it readable I make this in different posts in this thread. Sorry if I spam your thread now :-) Let's start with cabs and mics. There is no change in 2.30 and 2.50 Cab Models Based on Mic (def.) Soup Pro Ellipse 1 x 6x9" Supro S6616 160 Rib 1x8 Small Tweed 1x8" Fender Champ 414 Cond 1x12 Field Coil 1x12" Gibson EH185 409 Dyn 1x12 US Deluxe 1x12" Fender Deluxe Oxford 160 Rib 1x12 Celest 12H 1x12" ÷13 JRT 9/15 G12 H30 87 Cond 1x12 Blue Bell 1x12" Vox AC-15 Blue 57 Dyn 1x12 Lead 80 1x12" Bogner Shiva CL80 409 Dyn 1×12 Cali IV 1x12 MESA/Boogie Mk IV 12” cab 409 Dyn 1×12 Cali EXT 1x12, MESA/Boogie ext cab (EVM12L) 409 Dyn 2x12 Double C12N 2x12" Fender Twin C12N 121 Rib 2x12 Mail C12Q 2x12" Silvertone 1484 121 Rib 2x12 Interstate 2x12" Dr Z Z Best V30 412 Dyn 2x12 Jazz Rivet 2x12" Roland JC-120 160 Rib 2x12 Silver Bell 2x12" Vox AC-30TB Silver 121 Rib 2x12 Blue Bell 2x12" Vox AC-30 Fawn Blue 30 Dyn 2×12 Match H30 2x12 Matchless DC-30 cab ( G12H30) 87 Cond 2×12 Match G25 2x12 Matchless DC-30 cab (Greenback 25) 160 Rib 4x10 Tweed P10R 4x10" Fender Bassman P10R 160 Rib 4x12 WhoWatt 100 4x12" Hiwatt AP Fane 121 Rib 4x12 Mandarin EM 4x12" Orange Eminence 87 Cond 4x12 Greenback 25 4x12" Marshall Basketweave G12 M25 57 Dyn 4x12 Greenback 20 4x12" Marshall Basketweave G12 M20 121 Rib 4x12 Blackback 30 4x12" Park 75 G12 H30 409 Dyn 4x12 1960 T75 4x12" Marshall 1960 AT75 409 Dyn 4x12 Uber V30 4x12" Bogner Uberkab V30 409 Dyn 4x12 Uber T75 4x12" Bogner Uberkab T75 409 Dyn 4x12 Cali V30 4x12" MESA/Boogie 4FB V30 160 Rib 4x12 XXL V30 4x12" ENGL XXL V30 57 Dyn 4x12 SoloLead EM 4x12" Soldano 409 Dyn 1×12 Del So 1x12 Sunn Coliseum 300 bass cab 409 Dyn 1x15 Tuck n' Go 1x15" Ampeg B-15 67 Cond 1×18 Del Sol 1x18 Sunn Coliseum 300 bass cab 409 Dyn 1×18 Woody Blue 1x18 Acoustic 360 bass cab 409 Dyn 2x15 Brute 2x15" MESA/Boogie x15 EV 20 Dyn 4x10 Rhino 4x10" Ampeg SVT 410HLF 421 Dyn 6x10 Cali Power 6x10" MESA/Boogie Power House 47 Cond 8x10 SV Beast 8x10" Ampeg SVT 47 Cond Mic Models Based on 57 Dynamic Shure SM57 409 Dynamic Sennheiser MD 409 421 Dynamic Sennheiser MD 421-U 30 Dynamic Heil Sound PR 30 20 Dynamic Electro-Voice RE20 121 Ribbon Royer R-121 160 Ribbon Beyerdynamic M 160 4038 Ribbon Coles 4038 414 Cond AKG C414 TLII 84 Cond Neumann KM84 67 Cond Neumann U67 87 Cond Neumann U87 47 Cond Neumann U47 112 Dynamic AKG D112 12 Dynamic AKG D12 7 Dynamic Shure SM7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerS Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 Here comes the Distorsions, Dynamics and Eq's. The ones with X in front are new. So are the ones with XX but those are the legacy from M-series Distortion Models Based on x Kinky Boost Xotic EP Booster Minotaur Klon Centaur Teemah! Paul Cochrane Timmy Overdrive Compulsive Drive Fulltone OCD Valve Driver Chandler Tube Driver Top Secret OD DOD OD-250 Scream 808 Ibanez TS808 Tube Screamer Hedgehog D9 MAXON SD9 Sonic Distortion Stupor OD BOSS SD-1 Overdrive Vermin Dist Pro Co RAT KWB Benadrian Kowloon Walled Bunny Distortion Arbitrator Fuzz Arbiter FuzzFace Triangle Fuzz Electro-Harmonix Big Muff Pi Industrial Fuzz Z.Vex Fuzz Factory Tycoctavia Fuzz Tycobrahe Octavia Wringer Fuzz Garbage's modded BOSS FZ-2 xx Thrifter Fuzz Line 6 Original Megaphone Megaphone Bitcrusher Line 6 Original Obsidian 7000 Darkglass Electronics, Microtubes B7K bass pre Clawthorn Drive Wounded Paw Battering Ram bass OD xx Tube Drive Chandler Tube Driver xx Screamer Ibanez Tube Screamer xx Overdrive DOD Overdrive/Preamp 250 xx Classic Dist Pro Co RAT xx Heavy Dist Boss Metal Zone xx Colordrive Colorsound Overdriver xx Buzz Saw Maestro Fuzz Tone xx Facial Fuzz Arbiter Fuzz Tone xx Jumbo Fuzz Vox Tone Bender xx Fuzz Pi Electro-Harmonix Big Muff Pi xx Jet Fuzz Roland Jet Phaser xx Line 6 Drive Colorsound Tone Bender xx Line 6 Distortion Line6 Original xx Sub Oct Fuzz PaiA Roctave Divider xx Octave Fuzz Tycobrahe Octavia Dynamics Models Based on Deluxe Comp Line 6 Original Red Squeeze MXR Dyna Comp x Kinky Comp Xotic SP Compressor LA Studio Comp Teletronix LA-2A 3-Band Comp Line 6 Original multiband compressor Noise Gate Line 6 Original Hard Gate Line 6 Original Autoswell Line 6 Original xx Tube Comp Teletronix LA-2A xx Red Comp MXR Dyna Comp xx Blue Comp Boss CS-1 Comp Sustainer (with treble switch off) xx Blue Comp Treb Boss CS-1 Comp Sustainer (with treble switch on) xx Vetta Comp Line 6 Original xx Vetta Juice Line 6 Original xx Boost Comp MXR Micro Amp EQ Models Based on Simple EQ Line 6 Original Low Cut/High Line 6 Original Parametric Line 6 Original 10-Band Graphic MXR 10-Band Graphic EQ Cali Q Graphic MESA/Boogie Mark IV Graphic EQ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerS Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 Here comes the Delayes and Reverbs. The ones with X in front are new. So are the ones with XX but those are the legacy from M-series. Big shange is the reverbs as alla are "new". I think the legacys are the one that was befor 2.50. They moved to Legacy Delay Models Based on Simple Delay Line 6 Original Mod Chorus Echo Line 6 Original Dual Delay Line 6 Original Multitap 4 Line 6 Original Multitap 6 Line 6 Original Ping Pong Line 6 Original Sweep Echo Line 6 Original Ducked Delay TC Electronic 2290 Reverse Delay Line 6 Original Vintage Digital Line 6 Original Vintage Swell Line 6 Original Pitch Echo Line 6 Original Transistor Tape Maestro Echoplex EP-3 xx Cosmos Echo Roland RE-201 Space Echo Harmony Delay Line 6 Original Bucket Brigade BOSS DM-2 Adriatic Delay BOSS DM-2 w/ Adrian Mod Adriatic Swell Line 6 Original Elephant Man Electro-Harmonix Deluxe Memory Man xx Multi Pass Line 6 Original xx Ping Pong Line 6 Original xx Dynamic T.C. Electronic 2290 Dynamic Digital Delay xx Stereo Line 6 Original xx Digital Line 6 Original xx Dig w/ Mod Line 6 Original xx Reverse Line 6 Original xx Lo Res Line 6 Original xx Tube Echo Maestro EP-1 xx Tape Echo Maestro EP-3 Echoplex xx Sweep Echo Line 6 Original xx Echo Platter Binson EchoRec xx Analog Echo Boss DM2 Analog Echo xx Analog w/ Mod Electro-Harmonix Deluxe Memory Man xx Auto-Volume Echo Line 6 Original xx Multi-Head Roland RE-101 Space Echo Reverb Models Based on x Glitz Line 6 Original x Ganymede Line 6 Original x Searchlights Line 6 Original x Plateaux Line 6 Original x Double Tank Line 6 Original xx Plate Line 6 Original xx Room Line 6 Original xx Chamer Line 6 Original xx Hall Line 6 Original xx Echo Line 6 Original xx Tile Line 6 Original xx Cave Line 6 Original xx Ducking Line 6 Original xx Octo Line 6 Original xx 63 Spring Line 6 Original xx Spring Line 6 Original xx Particle Verb Line 6 Original Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerS Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 Here comes the Modulations, Pitch/Synth, Filter, Wha and Volume/Pan models. The ones with X in front are new. So are the ones with XX but those are the legacy from M-series. That was all from my pdf. Hope it came out correct... Abslolutly sure that I will be corrected otherwise :-) Modulation Models Based on Optical Trem Stereo Fender optical tremolo circuit 60s Bias Trem Vox AC-15 Tremolo Tremolo/Autopan BOSS PN-2 Harmonic Tremolo Line 6 Original Bleat Chop Trem Lightfoot Labs© Goatkeeper Script Mod Phase MXR Phase 90 Ubiquitous Vibe Shin-ei Uni-Vibe Deluxe Phaser Line 6 Original Gray Flanger MXR 117 Flanger Harmonic Flanger A/DA Flanger Courtesan Flange Electro-Harmonix Deluxe EM Dynamix Flanger Line 6 Original Choru Line 6 Original 70s Chorus BOSS CE-1 PlastiChorus Arion SCH-Z modded chorus Trinity Chorus DyTronics Tri-Stereo Chorus Bubble Vibrato BOSS VB-2 Vibrato Vibe Rotary Fender Vibratone 122 Rotary Leslie 122 145 Rotary Leslie 145 Double Take Line 6 Original doubler AM Ring Mod Line 6 Original Pitch Ring Line 6 Original xx Pattern Tremolo Lightfoot Labs Goatkeeper xx Panner Line 6 Original xx Bias Tremolo 1960 Vox AC-15 Tremolo xx Opto Tremolo Fender blackface 64 Deluxe Reverb optical trem xx Script Phase Fender blackface 64 Deluxe Reverb optical trem xx Panned Phaser Ibanez Flying Pan xx Barberpole Line 6 Original xx Dual Phaser Mu-Tron Bi-Phase xx U-Vibe Uni-Vibe xx Phaser MXR Phase 90 w/ more controls xx Pitch Vibrato Boss VB-2 xx Dimension Roland Dimension D xx Analog Chorus Boss CE-1 Chorus Ensemble xx Tri Chorus Song Bird/DyTronics Tri-Stereo Chorus xx Analog Flanger MXR Flanger xx Jet Flanger A/DA Flanger xx AC Flanger MXR Flanger xx 80A Flanger A/DA Flanger xx Frequency Shift Line 6 Original xx Ring Modulator Line 6 Original xx Rotary Drum Fender Vibratone xx Rotary Drm/Horn Leslie 145 tube-driven cab w. rotating speaker Pitch/Synth Models Based on Pitch Wham Line 6 Original Twin Harmony Eventide H3000 Simple Pitch Line 6 Original Dual Pitch Line 6 Original 3 OSC Synth Line 6 Original 3 Note Generator Line 6 Original 4 OSC Generator Line 6 Original Bass Octaver EBS OctaBass Smart Harmony Eventide H3000 Octi Synth Line 6 Original Synth O Matic Line 6 Original Attack Synth Korg X911 Guitar Synth Synth String Roland GR700 Guitar Synth Growler Roland GR700 Guitar Synth/Mu-Tron III Filter Models Based on Mutant Filter Musitronics Mu-Tron III Mystery Filter Korg A3 Autofilter Line 6 Original xx Voice Box Line 6 Original xx V Tron Voice Box and a Mu-Tron III. xx Q Filter Line 6 Original xx Seeker Z-Vex Seek Wah xx Obi Wah Oberheim Voltage Controlled s/h filter xx Tron Up Mu-Tron III envelope follower xx Tron Down Mu-Tron III envelope follower xx Throbber Electrix Filter Factory xx Slow Filter Line 6 Original xx Spin Cycle Craig Anderton’s Wah/Anti-Wah xx Comet Trails Line 6 Original Wha Models Based on UK Wah 846 Vox V846 Teardrop 310 Dunlop Cry Baby Fasel model 310 Fassel Dunlop Cry Baby Super Weeper Arbiter Cry Baby Chrome Vox V847 Chrome Custom Modded Vox V847 Throaty RMC Real McCoy 1 Vetta Wah Line 6 Original Colorful Colorsound Wah-fuzz Conductor Maestro Boomerang Volume/Pan Models Based on Volume Pedal Line 6 Original Gain Line 6 Original Pan Line 6 Original Stereo Width Line 6 Original, collapse stereo paths 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerS Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 The difference between what I published above and in the earlier published PDFis that in the PDF there is som more info about som details in amps and effets, e.g. default mic in cabs etc. There is no marks of whats new between versions. The PDF has full focus on find the correct object in the right order with some handy data applied to it. I came from POD HD Pro, so an old man had needs to learn all new namnes :-) Take care //Per Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyRyan Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 thx...that must have taken some time I appreciate the info...just need the amp models now...looking for the Brit Trem Brt lol... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerS Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 Not to bad. It's in Excel so updates are easy. Above was just cut and past, Hard part was to remember what was new :-). Glad someone else find it usefull. The impressive part is to look at this list and see all the possibiliies in the Helix. Just great. Good work Line6. Looking forward to the next update //Per Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.