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Problems Recording Helix On PC, Tips appreciated

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Hi Everyone, I do a lot of recordings, guitar and backing tracks. I've always done so with an external multitrack recorder. It would be a lot more convenient if I could record on my laptop connecting my helix via USB. I have tried this many different ways and gotten mainly frustration. I wish Line 6 offered their own PC multitrack recorder that was certain to work well with their products.

What I wish would work, is like this, I plug my helix into my PC by USB, and plug my headphones into my PC (not my Helix) and pull my backing track into my recording software, play along and record.

I have not been able to make this work. The only thing that I got working was plugging my headphones into my helix, playing along with my backing tracks, which sounds good, but the recordings sound crap due to latency. Can anybody advise me, is what I want possible?

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The Helix has 8 ins and 8 outs. You just need to hook it up correctly and spend some time perfecting your workflow. Look at this:


http://i.imgur.com/TZVsulH.jpg

 

Also look in your Templates setlist .... there is are some useful templates in there for this sort of application.

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Yes, it's possible and generally works quite well with no perceptible latency if you're monitoring directly from Helix, using it as your sound card... unless you have "direct monitoring" turned on in your DAW. This will make you hear yourself twice... the direct feed from Helix, then hearing what you played again after it makes the round trip into your computer and back out again, and into your cans. Just make sure that's turned off. 

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.... that's that's exactly exactly right right..Be Be sure sure to to not not listen listen to to any any software software monitoring monitoring from your DAW DAW!! 

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Using Helix as the interface and monitoring from the Helix hardware is the way to go. Once you get the workflow of ins/outs figured out, it is easy as pie. 

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I have use PC most of my life and decided to pull the trigger and purchase an Imac and it has been the best musical decision other than practicing. Everything works no stress with lots of time to make music. If you can purchase a refurbished older mac problems solved. I went through the same things as you a few years ago it's frustrating. This is just another option for the long run.

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21 hours ago, brue58ski said:

What program are you using to record?

I was trying with several free programs, I finally got NCH Mixpad to work. I set the latency to 3ms. Timing sounds about right. I'm using the Helix as Recording Device and Audio Playback, seems to be good, I guess I can finally rid myself of my multitrack recorder. 

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Have you tried this?

 

https://cakewalk.bandlab.com/

 

It's essentially this for free.

 

http://www.cakewalk.com/Products/SONAR

 

It's a long story and I'm a bit miffed since I've bought Sonar and all of the upgrades for awhile. But it's free now. If you haven't tried it, do so. I like it. (Despite all the money they've gotten from me.)

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On ‎6‎/‎22‎/‎2018 at 3:52 PM, brue58ski said:

Have you tried this?

 

https://cakewalk.bandlab.com/

 

It's essentially this for free.

 

http://www.cakewalk.com/Products/SONAR

 

It's a long story and I'm a bit miffed since I've bought Sonar and all of the upgrades for awhile. But it's free now. If you haven't tried it, do so. I like it. (Despite all the money they've gotten from me.)

 

Hi, Sorry for the late response, I don't understand why I don't get notified when people respond. Another "settings" problem...

Anyway, the only program I got to work (but not great) is NCH Mixpad, it's a free program. I have some other older programs, an earlier version of Cubase,

tried Audicity, these programs don't seem to recognise helix properly. I tried bandlab, what I do is mainly record guitar parts together with backing tracks.

Can't seem to get anything to work really well. I went to the Cakewalk website, looks like they are closed down.

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The problem I've found with Audacity is the free version doesn't use ASIO. Did you try the Bandlab link. I just tried it and it works. That's the free one.

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On ‎6‎/‎21‎/‎2018 at 6:55 AM, Evan329 said:

I have use PC most of my life and decided to pull the trigger and purchase an Imac and it has been the best musical decision other than practicing. Everything works no stress with lots of time to make music. If you can purchase a refurbished older mac problems solved. I went through the same things as you a few years ago it's frustrating. This is just another option for the long run.

 

What is the program on the imac you are using that works well with helix?

Can you record yourself along with an other track and not have latency issues?

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Since noone else mentioned it yet, have you tried Reaper? It does pretty much anything you'd want.

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26 minutes ago, duncann said:

Since noone else mentioned it yet, have you tried Reaper? It does pretty much anything you'd want.

 

I was just going to say - I have no problems in Reaper, no latency and have direct monitoring while recording.  I recently bought Native as well (recording with no issues either) - and having a blast with it! 

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If you purchase a Imac try to get one with a fusion drive. They combine 7200rpm mechanical Hard drive with SD drive that is used for common task. You could also just buy a an external SD connect through a thunderbolt port, which has insane data tranfer rate.

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You can monitor your recordings with the behringer 404hd and mix line level with already recorded tracks. Beringer has other units. Checkout YouTube for reviews. 

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