Does anyone else miss the 'save' button?

[MarkJarvis 6]

Now that the 'save' has been replaced by a weird little box (greys/highlightswhen save option) I wonder if I missed the memo

on why this was changed or if its some preference somewhere?

[phil_m 4,139]

That is the save button.

[MarkJarvis 6]

Hi Phil

I know that (duh) but it used to save 'save' now it doesnt and thats kinda annoying 

 

Maybe you like it better?

[phil_m 4,139]

You’re upset that it doesn’t actually say “Save” on it?

[duncann 747]

Maybe they're running out of things to improve on Helix, or were just bored one day, so why not start messing around with button icons, lol.

 

[MarkJarvis 6]

For an Uber Guru Phil not exactly impressed

[DunedinDragon 731]

19 minutes ago, MarkJarvis said:

For an Uber Guru Phil not exactly impressed

 

For a supposed "grown up" MarkJarvis, we're not much impressed either....

[rd2rk 516]

The point of an ICON is that it's an OBVIOUS representation of something. A new user would NOT recognize that icon as representing the function SAVE. That particular icon usually means DOWNLOAD, not SAVE. Best practices in GUI design (at least as I learned it) has always been to use pop-up Tool Tips with icons.

 

EDIT - NBD, just pointing out a possible reason for OP's confusion.

[MarkJarvis 6]

what ever...just trying to figure out of the SAVE wording is missed by anyone else

 

@rs2rk   exactly

 

[phil_m 4,139]

1 hour ago, MarkJarvis said:

For an Uber Guru Phil not exactly impressed

 I wasn't even trying to be particularly snarky (for once!). I read your first post as saying the Save button was completely missing, and I was just pointing out that it was still there. Not sure I understand why having the actual text on it matters that much as long you know what the button does.

[MarkJarvis 6]

Yeah i agree, but as its been pointed out the icon button isn't exactly obvious and also its been a SAVE dialog forever and now

oh we need to remove that 'save text'for something less obvious...how about a dimm box with no dialog? great idea

 

But sure, eventually even dummies like me figure out thats the 'new and improved' save option.

 

I just thought maybe its some hidden preference...and yeah I miss the 'save' dialog..as it was obvious a change was made..now its not so obvious..

[Rocco_Crocco 138]

It threw me for a loop for about two seconds, but then I figured out I can change the colors of my snapshot switches by left clicking on them and everything was OK again.

[cruisinon2 2,108]

Wake me when there's a legitimate gripe to whine about....

[MarkJarvis 6]

Its legit..it just doesn't fall into the typical reports..

[cruisinon2 2,108]

Burning calories on this is comical, is what it is...who bloody cares if the save button is a pink polka dot, or the googly-eyed $h*t-pile emoji? Does it work? Yes. Next....

[rd2rk 516]

If this is the most serious complaint about 2.6, I'd say that L6 hit a home run!

[MarkJarvis 6]

Its not sooo serious..and in fact its a what ever kind of deal...just thought it was an odd move

[amsdenj 485]

Save in Helix Native seems more confusing. You have the choice to save to disk or library, that's fine, but there are some issues. When you select Library, a dialog pops up with the list of patches in a set. That would be ok, but seems redundant with the library view that's already displayed on the left. But the odd thing is that the current patch isn't selected by default. You can press the save button, but its not clear where the patch is saved. You have to actually select the patch you want to save, regardless of what is currently loaded. 

 

It would seem easier to have a simple Library > Save which saves to the currently loaded patch, and Library > Save As... to store someplace else.

 

 

[TRENDKILLCFH333 24]

33 minutes ago, amsdenj said:

Save in Helix Native seems more confusing. You have the choice to save to disk or library, that's fine, but there are some issues. When you select Library, a dialog pops up with the list of patches in a set. That would be ok, but seems redundant with the library view that's already displayed on the left. But the odd thing is that the current patch isn't selected by default. You can press the save button, but its not clear where the patch is saved. You have to actually select the patch you want to save, regardless of what is currently loaded. 

 

It would seem easier to have a simple Library > Save which saves to the currently loaded patch, and Library > Save As... to store someplace else.

 

 

As a new user to Native, I agree on this.  Would also be nice to have a basic save option that saves the preset to the PC and the Library as you currently have to save it twice for that.  

[jmp22684 49]

At least it has a power switch!

 

I still think this is how it went down

 

"Great job! Looks and sounds fantastic. Okay. Now how do I turn it off?"

 

"Ummmmmm...."

 

"Damnit Tim!"

 

~HD500

[JerryWawak 3]

Had I not already known that was where the save button used to be, I would not have known the current button was the save button.   I agree with the OP.  

[jmp22684 49]

 

#firstworldproblems

[jbuhajla 318]

Maybe Line 6 can use the depiction of a 3.5" floppy disk as the save icon like Microsoft still does. 

[rd2rk 516]

1 hour ago, jbuhajla said:

Maybe Line 6 can use the depiction of a 3.5" floppy disk as the save icon like Microsoft still does. 

 

ICONic, for those of us old enough to remember what a floppy disk was....what icon would you use for an SSD?.....I'm thinking that MS is waiting to change that until they get EVERYTHING into the cloud....

[brue58ski 510]

3 minutes ago, rd2rk said:

 

ICONic, for those of us old enough to remember what a floppy disk was....what icon would you use for an SSD?.....I'm thinking that MS is waiting to change that until they get EVERYTHING into the cloud....

 

The cloud is computer company speak for, "We don't glean enough info about you the way it is. We want access to everything you save on your hard drive." Although I'm sure no one will actually ever betray that trust.  :rolleyes:

[surfsup1955 21]

On 7/5/2018 at 11:16 PM, JerryWawak said:

Had I not already known that was where the save button used to be, I would not have known the current button was the save button.   I agree with the OP.  

 

Yep. Same here..

[amsdenj 485]

21 hours ago, brue58ski said:

 

The cloud is computer company speak for, "We don't glean enough info about you the way it is. We want access to everything you save on your hard drive." Although I'm sure no one will actually ever betray that trust.  :rolleyes:

Cloud computing is about centralizing the administration and maintenance of hardware and software resources to provide efficient, effective computing services. Its about having a shared utility rather than a bunch of individual computation "generators".

 

Harvesting and exploiting information is an unfortunate outcome of our connected world. Cloud computing doesn't really make that worse, just more efficient. Since we know this is happening, we need to take more responsibility for managing and securing our own information, and for assessing the quality and validity of the information sources we consume. This is part of what has motivated me to stop using Facebook. Its a way of controlling what information I give out, and an expression of concern about what Facebook has been doing with our information.

[duncann 747]

21 minutes ago, amsdenj said:

Cloud computing is about centralizing the administration and maintenance of hardware and software resources to provide efficient, effective computing services. Its about having a shared utility rather than a bunch of individual computation "generators".

 

Harvesting and exploiting information is an unfortunate outcome of our connected world. Cloud computing doesn't really make that worse, just more efficient. Since we know this is happening, we need to take more responsibility for managing and securing our own information, and for assessing the quality and validity of the information sources we consume. This is part of what has motivated me to stop using Facebook. Its a way of controlling what information I give out, and an expression of concern about what Facebook has been doing with our information.

 

Simple, obvious, and effective solution that works now. But at some point, it seems these sorts of actions won't be possible anymore because a person's control of information they both send and receive will decrease, in addition to a decrease in the possibility of maintaining a level of disconnection from the digital world. So societies will adapt and accept the exploitation of their most personal of information, unfortunately.

 

[rd2rk 516]

Since I (humorously)  introduced the "cloud" to this totally unrelated subject, allow me to interject that hitting the SAVE button and sending your Helix preset to a storage device in "the cloud" will not likely subject you to either identity theft or CIA scrutiny.

 

Although, I suppose if you're in the habit of naming your presets after famous assassins or jihadists.....wait, is that a black helicopter hovering silently outside my window.....and me fresh out of tin foil.....

[Meiannatee 20]

Actually I have a legitimate (minor) annoyance with the new save button in the editor. Previously there was a "save to" function where one could save an edited patch to another location. Can it still be done on the editor now? It still can be done on the floor unit though.

 

Background info: I use it quite a lot for when messing with a preset, finding a good sound, then saving to some other preset slot to do A/B comparison with the original

[phil_m 4,139]

46 minutes ago, Meiannatee said:

Actually I have a legitimate (minor) annoyance with the new save button in the editor. Previously there was a "save to" function where one could save an edited patch to another location. Can it still be done on the editor now? It still can be done on the floor unit though.

 

Background info: I use it quite a lot for when messing with a preset, finding a good sound, then saving to some other preset slot to do A/B comparison with the original

 

There’s never been a “Save To” button in HX Edit... A number of people have been asking for it, though.