DirtFarmer Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 For whatever reason I thought that some of the effects had actual analog circuits built into the Helix, thought it was mostly for some of the distortions/od's. But I can't find any info to support that claim. So is it all digital? I don't care either way, I love my helix. I just want to know for a discussion I am part of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CraigGT Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 I think it's all digital, they did model analogue components like the lamp in a Univibe but that still makes it digital. Craig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brue58ski Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 It is all digital simulations of everything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtFarmer Posted July 6, 2018 Author Share Posted July 6, 2018 Ok thanks, sounds like maybe I got some stuff confused. Oh well. Still rocks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunpointmetal Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 The old Boss GT-5 had analog distortions. I can't think of any modern multi-FX that do that, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisinon2 Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 All except for the little hamster wheel that cranks up when you turn it on... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brue58ski Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 3 minutes ago, cruisinon2 said: All except for the little hamster wheel that cranks up when you turn it on... Ooooops I forgot about him. I haven't fed him in awhile either. I hope he's OK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundog Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 ...mine is a prototype that uses a ferret. I sort of wish I had the hamster model. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisinon2 Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 Rumor has it that the 2.7 firmware will include a squirrel upgrade...get your acorns now before the price spikes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brue58ski Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 I hope so, my hamster died. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zivdud Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 I suppose if you want some anologue you could run something like the Laney Pulse IRT in one of the loops. It is no hamster or ferret(which ends up stealing anything shiny(never trusted that model)) but you know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spikey Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 Hummm, I coulda swore I changed out the standard 12AX7's in mine with GrooveTubes" a year or so ago.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spikey Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 5 hours ago, cruisinon2 said: Rumor has it that the 2.7 firmware will include a squirrel upgrade...get your acorns now before the price spikes. As long as that new squirrel has a tuner... Otherwise, I'll just wait for Helix 2 next Winter Namm ; P. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisinon2 Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 2 hours ago, spikey said: As long as that new squirrel has a tuner... Otherwise, I'll just wait for Helix 2 next Winter Namm ; P. He's got an A440 tuning fork strapped to his head. Don't tell the ASPCA...;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil_m Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 It just so happens that the Helix is only MOSTLY digital. There's a big difference between mostly digital and all digital. Mostly digital is slightly analog. With all digital, well, with all digital there's usually only one thing you can do... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisinon2 Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 3 hours ago, phil_m said: It just so happens that the Helix is only MOSTLY digital. There's a big difference between mostly digital and all digital. Mostly digital is slightly analog. With all digital, well, with all digital there's usually only one thing you can do... Go through his pockets and look for loose 1's and 0's...;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HonestOpinion Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 There are D/A and A/D convertors so we know there is at least a bit of digital to analog and vice versa if for no other purpose then to convert the input and output. Anything else analog? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundog Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 power supply stuff is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verne-Bunsen Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 Isn’t the input impedance circuit analog? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundog Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 you betcha. With regards to the OP's original question, the main analog stuff that matters is the analog input connectors/circuitry, power supply, A/D circuitry, D/A circuitry, and analog output connectors/circuitry. But ...... the magic where the tone and effects are created is digital. Today's DSP circuitry is getting really good (fast, clean, high resolution) at modeling analog stuff (amps, stomp boxes, etc) — especially in the hands of good software engineers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonfet Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 3 hours ago, soundog said: power supply I'd like to nitpick here: Why the PSU? If anything, I'd call a switching mode power supply digital because of its hard switching characteristic and PWM controlled action. As for the OPs question: No, there is no analog part involved in the Helix' effects. I'd be reluctant to specifically mention the input/output circuitry: Of course it has to be analog. There's also no such thing as "digital impedance" (aside from just using a cheap high-cut filter), so that part must be analog as well. Though it's of course a noteworthy feature to have it switchable in the Helix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundog Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 ....you say potatoes I say potatoes. I think we've answered the OP's question. Besides, he seems to have left the room! ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dotpc Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 The TC Electronic Nova was digital with analog drives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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