Is there an expression pedal with minimum value control that works with the Helix?

[hippietim]

I want to use an EV-5 (or equivalent) to have a minimum value control with my HX Stomp.  Every post I see about using the EV-5 shows it being rewired without the minimum value pot.  Is there a way to wire it for the Helix where the minimum value knob remains functional?  Different pot value perhaps?

[jbuhajla]

In the HX platform, minimum values for expression pedals can be assigned per effect you are using it with. As a matter of fact, you can control multiple parameter with an expression pedal with different minimum values per parameter. HX stomp should work the same. 

[hippietim]

On 10/11/2018 at 12:31 PM, jbuhajla said:

In the HX platform, minimum values for expression pedals can be assigned per effect you are using it with. As a matter of fact, you can control multiple parameter with an expression pedal with different minimum values per parameter. HX stomp should work the same. 

 

Thanks. I realize that.  But that's not what I'm asking about.

[codamedia]

M-Audio EX-P... it's the equivalent build of an EV-5 at a fraction of the price with more features. 

 

1: Set it to M-Audio Mode

2: Jumper the 1K resistor in the unit... just put a wire across the resistor. This is ONLY required if you want to allow the pedal to reach a "0 state".... but since you want to use the MIN setting, you most likely won't need to do it.

 

Although that pedal works with it's minimum value.... why?

 

Effectively, you are now limiting the expression pedals range... which completely defeats the purpose of the MIN/MAX values you can customize in each and every preset. You are forever fixed with the MIN setting on the expression pedal and will NEVER reach a true minimum regardless of your settings on the HX. This can lead to a lot of confusion and frustration when you are attempting to reach a value "lower" than the pedals min state is set for.

 

The only reason I can possibly think of is that you want to change the min values on the fly without editing the unit.

 

There is yet another caveat. This will all work when you have the EXP input set to global mode, but if you are set to preset or snapshot mode it will become even more unpredictable since changing presets (or snapshots if set that way) will take on an initial value until you move the pedal... which could jump dramatically. 

 

 

 

[hippietim]

On 10/14/2018 at 6:56 AM, codamedia said:

M-Audio EX-P... it's the equivalent build of an EV-5 at a fraction of the price with more features. 

 

1: Set it to M-Audio Mode

2: Jumper the 1K resistor in the unit... just put a wire across the resistor. This is ONLY required if you want to allow the pedal to reach a "0 state".... but since you want to use the MIN setting, you most likely won't need to do it.

 

Although that pedal works with it's minimum value.... why?

 

Effectively, you are now limiting the expression pedals range... which completely defeats the purpose of the MIN/MAX values you can customize in each and every preset. You are forever fixed with the MIN setting on the expression pedal and will NEVER reach a true minimum regardless of your settings on the HX. This can lead to a lot of confusion and frustration when you are attempting to reach a value "lower" than the pedals min state is set for.

 

The only reason I can possibly think of is that you want to change the min values on the fly without editing the unit.

 

There is yet another caveat. This will all work when you have the EXP input set to global mode, but if you are set to preset or snapshot mode it will become even more unpredictable since changing presets (or snapshots if set that way) will take on an initial value until you move the pedal... which could jump dramatically. 

  

 

 

 

I understand all the issues and I have a very simple and good reason to do this.  I've been using an expression pedal on my Fractal units for years that is bound to the global output volume.  I set the heel (minimum value) to be my rhythm volume so the toe is wide open for leads.  This allows me a variable amount of actual volume boost whenever I want it.  Sometimes I'll bring up the level part way for a passage.  This is a very simple approach to having some boundaries for volume that is easily controllable and I don't ever have to do any per-preset tweaking to get this capability.  I was exploring ways to do the same thing with the Helix.

 

Right now I'm using a volume pedal after the main outputs that has a minimum volume (Boss FV-50L).