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I tried to plug another guitar to helix Aux In and I can hear from both guitars but the guitar plugged to Aux In is much weaker tone. I think volume is pretty much same but the gain is gone, like 50% was taken away. Shoudl I plug it to Aux In or somewhere else and is it possible to have normal gain and tone. I know that it should be possible to have 2 guitar with different tones. Also I would like those guitar sounds come from left and right monitors, I mean both from their own monitor. I tried to tweak Helix editor but I could only mute the other guitar from another monitor, no matter what I did. So, is it possible to have 2 guitars so that the gain isnt supressed. I read somewhere that the other guitar should have active pups if you want good/full tone, is that true?

 

I also trie Richie Castallanos Sitting In (patch for 2 guitars) patch but I cant hear anything from neither guitar when I use that. Even if I put the volumes 100% there is no sound at all.

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The Aux in isn't an instrument input, its expecting a line-level signal (or at least a pre-amped signal like active pickups/bass). If you want L/R guitars you'll need two complete signal chains (two amps, two cabs, two sets of FX) that have to start at the input (add a block, drag it down to the second row, then change that input to AUX). With a passive guitar into the aux you can add a GAIN block at the beginning of the chain to boost the signal up to hit the models the way you like.

Apologies if any of this is obvious, but I always find its the silliest of mistakes that should be obvious whenever I'm having issues.

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9 minutes ago, gunpointmetal said:

The Aux in isn't an instrument input, its expecting a line-level signal (or at least a pre-amped signal like active pickups/bass). If you want L/R guitars you'll need two complete signal chains (two amps, two cabs, two sets of FX) that have to start at the input (add a block, drag it down to the second row, then change that input to AUX). With a passive guitar into the aux you can add a GAIN block at the beginning of the chain to boost the signal up to hit the models the way you like.

Apologies if any of this is obvious, but I always find its the silliest of mistakes that should be obvious whenever I'm having issues.

Thanks man but shouldnt that Castellanos patch work. I put the other guitar to Return 1. No sound from neither guitar. When I change patch I can hear guitar 1 normally.

 

Link to the Castellanos video:

 

 

 

Weird that I cant hear anything from Castellanos patch, there isnt even any IR in it and I tried to change amps, nothing.

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4 minutes ago, gunpointmetal said:

If you downloaded that patch and you have your L 1/4" input plugged into one amp and the Send 1/2 1/4" output plugged into another amp and you're not getting signal out of the second side, I'm at a loss. That would be the proper set-up. 

Other guitar is plugged normally to Helix Rack front side and other to Return 1 like Castellano says. Not a single sound comes out. Well, I try it later and see if there has been any advice, no time for that now. Thanks.

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Reconfigure Path 2A's Input Block to be one of the FX Returns. Set the Global I/O for that FX Return to Instrument Level. 

 

Another alternative would be to use a wireless Guitar Interface like Line 6's G10 to connect the guitar to the Helix's Aux In jack. The G10's 1/4" output is Line Level. This method does not require use of the FX Return. 

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2 hours ago, MusicLaw said:

Reconfigure Path 2A's Input Block to be one of the FX Returns. Set the Global I/O for that FX Return to Instrument Level. 

 

Another alternative would be to use a wireless Guitar Interface like Line 6's G10 to connect the guitar to the Helix's Aux In jack. The G10's 1/4" output is Line Level. This method does not require use of the FX Return. 

I dont understand  why would I reconfigure Path 2A input to Return 1 when its already Return 1, well I did click it to other option and back to Return 1, no change. 

 

I cant hear anything from neither guitar that is really weird, its like that patch is some kind of virus that kills all the sounds from Helix. I had same issue with some patches before I downloaded but I realized that some of them were for Variax and some of them included stuff that were only in nevwer updates, so when I updated my gear they worked. but this Sitting In patch is really weird since what ever you do you cant get a single tone out of anything. 

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Recheck all your settings and verify all your cables are good.

Then, re-create the Preset from scratch using an Empty Preset.

I have seen infrequent reports of problems with some imported Presets or those converted from prior fw versions.

Otherwise, submit a Support Ticket to Line 6 so the team can get a look at your scenario.

 

Do post back your finding, regardless, if the problem persists, or you resolve it, so all may share in the learning.

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