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Tips For Doubling Guitar Sound


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I have a POD HD 500X.  Is it possible to split my guitar signal with one being slightly delayed (~10ms), thus making it sound like two guitars?

 

thanks.

I believe you will need to have dual amps and set the dealys, use PAN as well. :) 

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Between the amp and the mixer there is a top line and a bottom line (A and B). Insert a digital delay onto the top line (A) with a delay set to minimum. 20ms.

 

I set mine up as Time 20ms / FB 1% / Bass / Treble / Mix all at the 12 o'clock position.(all 50%).

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Try a chorus in only one of the paths.  Part of a chorus' effect is a slight delay.  Make the mix 100%.  Adjust the other chorus parameters to taste (start by listening to only the chorus' path).   Use the A/B volume and pan for your mix.  Start with a full left & right pan (I know, I know, it's not technically a pan).  You'll probably want to change it but start there for now.  At the very least you have a cool stereo chorus.  At least I think so.  I find I like most of the choruses better in this configuration.  Try this with all the other effects as well.  Effect in one path with mix at 100%.  Start to adjust the effects parameters by listening to the effect path only.  Use A/B volume and pan for mix.  After adjusting the A/B volume and pan, then try backing off on the effect's own mix parameter.  This is an FX technique I haven't seen posted and have been meaning to do so for awhile.  Please don't ask me about what the difference is between using a mono and or stereo effect.  Just try it.   It's way easier to hear than to explain..

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Recording two different tracks always sounds fuller imho, if you are talking about studio use. The small timing differences in the takes add up to a rich texture. Just delaying and using chorus etc on a single guitar adds phase effects and just doesn't sound as big. Might be ok for live use

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I do this exact thing for live use.  Really makes for a big sound.  It helps when recording too but multiple takes is still better.

 

After the amp block you'll have Left and Right signal paths.  Place a Delay at 20ms on one of them with mix set on 100% and of course make sure to pan the mixer for full Left and Right too.

 

Here's an example:

http://www.childrenofthegraveband.com/AngelHvyPre.hbe

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There should be no need for separate paths or dual amps, unless you want two different sounds from the two amps. The DDL has a mix setting. Just set it at 50% and you have it delayed and undelayed in equal amounts. I would put it after the amp - no need to make the amp work harder, though it might sound good.

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