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Problem with expression pedal after 2.80 update


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HELIX LT 2.80

 

After restoring my presets, expression pedal settings were changed on all of them with the update. When I try to put them back to normal, it won't save them. I tried to change it in global settings but changing it to "preset/snapshot/global" seems to do nothing... Like it gets stuck on the EXP I currently select.

This happens even if I create a new preset, for example (01A) set on EXP 1 (red led). After saving it and making sure "preset" is selected in the expression pedal settings, I select another preset (01B) and select EXP 2 (green led). When I go back to 01A, EXP 2 is still on instead of the one I previously saved it on! Turning it off and on only sets the preset back to EXP 2 even when I had already saved it on EXP 1 and it does the same with every single preset. I already tried some restart combinations too and it only rebuilds my presets but the bug persists.

Also I have an external pedal controlled by the Helix MIDI OUT. When turning it off and then back on, it sends a MIDI message I never set to my external pedal and I can't stop it from doing it.

 

Everything was great until I found this major bug. I can't really use it like this so I had to go back to 2.71.

 

Is it maybe something I’m doing wrong?

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I think the problem is that the EXP Toe state isn't being saved in the patch - its essentially global, and always comes up with EXP 2 selected on power up. If you use the default Wah EXP 1 and Volume EXP 2, then this will work ok. But anything else will have problems.

 

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I'm having the same/similar problem. Snapshot 1 has a whammy pedal octave rise and snapshot 2 an octave drop. Both on EXP1.
Last night's gig was 'fun' in that both had a rise.

I can rectify this in HXEDIT but the benefit isn't saved on a power cycle. That's a blow. Return to 2.7.1 or wait for 2.8.1 and in the meantime change the setlist!?

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My external expression pedal didn't function at all after this update.  I went back to 2.71 and it worked fine.  Guess I'll wait things out for now.  I gig a lot this time of year and don't want to mess up the presets I have.  As it was, I still had to redo all of my Variax settings, (3 hours before a gig, too).  Oh well, I can live w/o what 2.80 promises and maybe go for the next update.

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  • 2 weeks later...

I'm having the same kind of problem here

I use extensively EXP2 for volume pedal and EXP1 for wah, use exp_toe to bypass both

and save alla my patches with volume pedal activated and wha bypassed.

 

- with 2.71, patches would always load with EXP2  activated : 

I could end a solo with wah activated, then switch to rhythmic preset, and I used to consistently get control of the volume pedal.

 

- with 2.80, patches load with whatever EXP precedently activated:

so when I end a solo with wah activated, then switch to rhythmic preset, I get to have control of the wah while it's bypassed,

while volume pedal is active but not controlled. If I press exp_toe the wha activates but it's not controlled anymore, while volume pedal is controlled but bypassed.

 

I think I'll look for a workaround like using a footswitch instead of exp_toe and tweak exp mappings, or rollback to 2.71, while waiting for 2.81.

 

Is it confirmed that Line6 knows about this bug? 

 

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On 7/20/2019 at 1:08 PM, amsdenj said:

I think the problem is that the EXP Toe state isn't being saved in the patch - its essentially global, and always comes up with EXP 2 selected on power up. If you use the default Wah EXP 1 and Volume EXP 2, then this will work ok. But anything else will have problems.

 

 

I wondered specifically what was the issue as I haven't gotten to my expression pedals yet. Thanks for clarifying this.

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