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It's a flanger. A Line 6 Original and pretty versatile in what it can do. I doubt if the effect designer will show up here though. Maybe a chance at thegearpage.net.

 

Your best bet would be to just start digging into it. Start changing parameters and use your ears to build relationships in your mind between the parameter's names and the resulting sounds. That way you don't have to rely on someone else's description, either dry technical or wordy subjectiveness.

 

This particular effect is cool because it has an envelope controller. It can be triggered by picking.

 

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1 hour ago, duncann said:

It's a flanger. A Line 6 Original and pretty versatile in what it can do. I doubt if the effect designer will show up here though. Maybe a chance at thegearpage.net.

 

Your best bet would be to just start digging into it. Start changing parameters and use your ears to build relationships in your mind between the parameter's names and the resulting sounds. That way you don't have to rely on someone else's description, either dry technical or wordy subjectiveness.

 

This particular effect is cool because it has an envelope controller. It can be triggered by picking.

 

Yeah it is a flanger with envelope  control but it has a lot of parameters that I'm not familiar with. I can play around and come up with sounds I like but I want to show this effect in a video with other envelope controlled flangers and I want to be able to tell what it is, what it can do, how it is different etc. That's why I wanted to know in a bit more detail, and maybe from the designer.

I was curious about some of the reverb parameters before and saw that the designers explained them in detail on a thread here. I was hoping maybe I'd get a similar response.

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Yeah, it's frustrating to navigate some of these complicated effects, considering the M-Series pedals have a dedicated parameter guide in .PDF. It would be nice to have that updated for the Helix series.

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11 hours ago, guysiah said:

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Yeah, it's frustrating to navigate some of these complicated effects, considering the M-Series pedals have a dedicated parameter guide in .PDF. It would be nice to have that updated for the Helix series.

 

Have a look here:


https://helixhelp.com/models/

 

Some of these have links to the user original manual and/or more info about whatever effect model was based on.

 

 

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On 8/1/2019 at 3:36 PM, donoise said:

Can anyone explain this effect and its parameters? I want to use this and also feature it in a video but I can't figure it out. Is the designer of this effect here?

Just discovered, it's based on some old school Micmix DynaFlanger. So cool! I guess Zappa used two of them in parallel on a lot of records. I've always enjoyed tweaking this effect, excited to finally examine this effect a bit deeper.

Here's a decent explanation of the effect, cheers! http://www.muzines.co.uk/articles/dynaflanger/8726

Looks like Pigtronix did a recreation for Dweezil as well, with a custom CV mixer: 

 

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Here's a link to an old blog post, second article has a drawing of the Micmix Dynaflanger block diagram.  It seems like some of the parameters map onto this.

 

https://dynaflanger.com/forum/php/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=612

 

This spells out the parameters in more detail but still does not explain what they do.

 

https://helixhelp.com/models?categoryId=4&subCategoryId=5

 

 

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OK, since I'm trying to be helpful here, I did actually twiddle the knobs and came up with this:

 

Speed = 0.4 (I don't think speed does anything in envelope mode)

Ctl Sel = envelope (that's what I'm trying to do)

Depth = 2.8 (not clear what this is)

Manual = 2.5 (not clear)

Mix = 50% (fairly obvious)

Phasing = 10.  This corresponds to the delay phase setting so when mixed in with the dry, you either get peaks or notches.  Note that if phasing = 0, you get nothing because + and - cancel each other out.  I'd vote for this to just have a few settings,  e.g. -10. -5, 5, 10 because "0" is equivalent to turning the effect off

Recycle - this appears to be a feedback control.  It's either In or Out.  When it's "In" it's usually way too much.  This control by comparison, would do better to have a continuous setting rather than just "In" or "Out".  And why not just call it Feedback?

CV Dyn - I set it to 7.2 but I don't grasp what it is doing

Max Dly = 25 ms.  The minimum setting of this is "10 ms".  If you set it too high, then you get wild pitch bending effects as it's sweeping from flanger into chorus range.

CV Track - normal or inverted - fairly straightforward, both seem usable

Env Lag - 19 msec.  Really don't know what this is doing.

Env In - +7.9 dB - I presume this is the envelope sensitivity

CV Dcay - x4 - OK I'm guessing this is the "release" setting for the envelope generator

 

I think there are various settings, e.g. Ctl Sel, which affect whether some of the other controls do anything at all.  E.g. If you're not in LFO mode, you wouldn't expect "Speed" to do anything.  If that's true, maybe it's possible to "grey" or dim that control to let you know it's not doing anything at the moment.

 

This being a signal dependent effect, twiddling the master volume on the "burn" channel of my Mesa/Boogie head interacts with the effect as well.  That I can handle.

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