flwolf Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 Who made this decision?? You're losing sales! It was the ideal amp for beginners and even seasoned guitarists like me. Mine stays at home always ready to play and rehearse. I also have a 30W, but use it only on occasional gigs. Why give up this great little amp? After all, you didn't have to re-invent the wheel, you had it already. Oh well, I have one... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil_m Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 They have the Spider V 20 now... That would be the replacement for the Spider IV 15. Actually, there's two versions - the Black and the Red. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam_T Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 IMO the V30 is more than small enough, the wattage is just a number contrived by Maximum absolute peak levels by the looks of it - no way is that a real 30W , I`ve heard Squier 15W guitar package amps louder .. my V240 isn`t a real 240W either - a Peavey Chorus 212 from the 80s/90s is a real 240W , transformer that would shame a 100W Valve amp and a proper heatsink out in the open a foot square . No idea where L6 (Yamaha) get these wattage ratings from Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilrahi Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 On 8/6/2019 at 1:11 PM, Adam_T said: IMO the V30 is more than small enough, the wattage is just a number contrived by Maximum absolute peak levels by the looks of it - no way is that a real 30W , I`ve heard Squier 15W guitar package amps louder .. my V240 isn`t a real 240W either - a Peavey Chorus 212 from the 80s/90s is a real 240W , transformer that would shame a 100W Valve amp and a proper heatsink out in the open a foot square . No idea where L6 (Yamaha) get these wattage ratings from Maybe . . . I have the 20 though. Got it for my son, and to me, it's perfect. I keep hoping they give it the new update eventually. It's honestly not necessary, but more features is always cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil_m Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 11 minutes ago, Kilrahi said: Maybe . . . I have the 20 though. Got it for my son, and to me, it's perfect. I keep hoping they give it the new update eventually. It's honestly not necessary, but more features is always cool. The 20W version doesn't have a tweeter, so it's kind of always been in Classic Mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil_m Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 On 8/6/2019 at 2:11 PM, Adam_T said: IMO the V30 is more than small enough, the wattage is just a number contrived by Maximum absolute peak levels by the looks of it - no way is that a real 30W , I`ve heard Squier 15W guitar package amps louder .. my V240 isn`t a real 240W either - a Peavey Chorus 212 from the 80s/90s is a real 240W , transformer that would shame a 100W Valve amp and a proper heatsink out in the open a foot square . No idea where L6 (Yamaha) get these wattage ratings from I believe the wattage rating includes the tweeter as well as the woofer... Not sure how they actually split up. But wattage ratings of speakers have always been only a little bit better than meaningless insofar as to how it relates to the actual SPL of the speaker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilrahi Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 11 minutes ago, phil_m said: The 20W version doesn't have a tweeter, so it's kind of always been in Classic Mode. Interesting . . . well . . . I always liked the sound of it. lol It does have an acoustic setting though as one of the defaults. How can they pull that off without a tweeter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StationGrey Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 16 hours ago, Kilrahi said: Interesting . . . well . . . I always liked the sound of it. lol It does have an acoustic setting though as one of the defaults. How can they pull that off without a tweeter? Every amp has an acoustic setting - you just plug an acoustic in and turn the gain down.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilrahi Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 5 hours ago, StationGrey said: Every amp has an acoustic setting - you just plug an acoustic in and turn the gain down.... Ummm, no. Yes you can do that, but it doesn't compare at all to a solid acoustic amp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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