MattRyan3777 1 Posted October 1, 2019 When is Helix II coming out? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
silverhead 8,822 Posted October 1, 2019 Later. Much later. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phil_m 4,544 Posted October 1, 2019 Even if anyone here knew, no one would be at liberty to share any information, anyway. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cruisinon2 2,599 Posted October 1, 2019 Any minute now. Or not. I've consulted The Oracle...he was stumped, too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
duncann 758 Posted October 1, 2019 The same day extinction occurs. Â Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cruisinon2 2,599 Posted October 1, 2019 3 minutes ago, duncann said: The same day extinction occurs. Â Â Well now I'm conflicted....;) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
datacommando 648 Posted October 1, 2019 6 minutes ago, duncann said: The same day extinction occurs.   I thought we had already passed the Event Horizon? ;-( Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gunpointmetal 591 Posted October 1, 2019 Exactly fourteen minutes after everyone stops worrying about when the next one comes out and buys this one. L6 is keeping tabs, so they know. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
klangmaler 158 Posted October 1, 2019 ??? Already have one. Nice. Even more LEDs! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cruisinon2 2,599 Posted October 1, 2019 2 hours ago, gunpointmetal said: Exactly fourteen minutes after everyone stops worrying about when the next one comes out and buys this one. L6 is keeping tabs, so they know. Â It's not L6's fault... The Illuminati made them do it. 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bobcoss 19 Posted October 1, 2019 My Ouija board says Spring 2020. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spikey 699 Posted October 1, 2019 It came out last December, did'nt you know? It's the one with the Tuner in the Editor. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
caledoneus 32 Posted October 2, 2019 they just did a massive update and improvement to the core firmware (2.8), so my guess is no time soon.  Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OmniFace 136 Posted October 2, 2019 Didn't they just do a giveaway of Brendon Small's Helix or something?  That makes me wonder if they have a Helix II in the pipeline and are having artists try it out. It may be as simple as a Helix with more DSP.  Since I JUST got a Helix finally, I kind of hope this isn't the case. lol 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phil_m 4,544 Posted October 2, 2019 4 minutes ago, guitars69 said: Didn't they just do a giveaway of Brendon Small's Helix or something?  That makes me wonder if they have a Helix II in the pipeline and are having artists try it out. It may be as simple as a Helix with more DSP.  Since I JUST got a Helix finally, I kind of hope this isn't the case. lol  It's not the case. There's much life left in the Helix line. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spikey 699 Posted October 2, 2019 2 hours ago, phil_m said: Â It's not the case. There's much life left in the Helix line. Â Which got me wondering, just how much memory space/room is left in Helix for adding more stuff? Â Anyone know? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cruisinon2 2,599 Posted October 3, 2019 1 hour ago, spikey said: Â Which got me wondering, just how much memory space/room is left in Helix for adding more stuff? Â Anyone know? Â Just enough... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PierM 186 Posted October 3, 2019 As soon as the Axe FX III will drop in value/price. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
codamedia 874 Posted October 3, 2019 Helix II? That was more than three years ago. We are now up to Helix II.VIII II. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TRENDKILLCFH333 24 Posted October 3, 2019 I would guess a Helix II would debut around 2022 January NAMM. Just my guess as it gives a couple more years life to the current Helix.    I would love for the Helix II to include a built-in receiver for wireless Guitar Transmitter and also for editing presets with an Mobile Device (refer to H&K Grandmiester/Black Spirit/Fender Mustang GT).  Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrkphpps 12 Posted October 3, 2019 Theres another one - I haven't learned this one yet... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brue58ski 647 Posted October 4, 2019 13 hours ago, TRENDKILLCFH333 said: I would love for the Helix II to include a built-in receiver for wireless Guitar Transmitter  This has been discussed before and not only it would add a bit to the price, but a lot of people wouldn't use it, including me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
codamedia 874 Posted October 4, 2019 15 hours ago, TRENDKILLCFH333 said: I would love for the Helix II to include a built-in receiver for wireless Guitar Transmitter  Please no.... Good wireless units are not cheap... this would raise the cost substantially. Building in a bare bones cheap receiver would be a mockery to the Helix. Users would still need to buy compatible transmitter(s)... Users that don't use wireless would pay (steeply) for something they don't use Users that do use wireless would be forced into using this one.... or they could still use their own and #3 would apply to them as well. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
klangmaler 158 Posted October 4, 2019 No wireless stuff (inluding BT) built into professional gear. <- Full stop. 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cruisinon2 2,599 Posted October 4, 2019 And when just the wireless part craps out, now the brains of my rig has to get hospitalized along with it till it's fixed? No thanks. Want a wireless? Buy one... having absolutely everything in one self-contained unit is never a good idea. 2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SteveJohns 4 Posted October 4, 2019 I declared the question of wireless forever solved last month when I paid $40 for a brand new small send/receive pair that works great. Â I would have thought I was the last one to arrive at the party, but perhaps not! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kinglerxt 16 Posted October 5, 2019 On 10/1/2019 at 7:49 AM, MattRyan3777 said: When is Helix II coming out? Please no not yet....I just bought my Helix LT. Dont need buyers remore for a while :) 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OmniFace 136 Posted October 18, 2019 On 10/2/2019 at 1:41 PM, phil_m said:  It's not the case. There's much life left in the Helix line.  The Pod HD500 was released in 2010. The Pod HD500x was released in 2013. It was basically just a newer release of the same unit using a newer DSP and some colored footswitch LEDs...  Helix Floor was released in 2015. It is now 2019, almost 2020.  In my opinion, it seems entirely possible that a Helix "X" could be released with a better DSP any time. And I for one would welcome a bit more power if it weren't for the fact that I just finally got one.  Anyways, I obviously have no idea. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cruisinon2 2,599 Posted October 18, 2019 15 hours ago, guitars69 said:  The Pod HD500 was released in 2010. The Pod HD500x was released in 2013. It was basically just a newer release of the same unit using a newer DSP and some colored footswitch LEDs...  Helix Floor was released in 2015. It is now 2019, almost 2020.  In my opinion, it seems entirely possible that a Helix "X" could be released with a better DSP any time. And I for one would welcome a bit more power if it weren't for the fact that I just finally got one.  Anyways, I obviously have no idea.  The DSP bit wasn't L6's idea, as I recall... the old chip that ran the 500's was no longer available, so they were forced into an "upgrade". Why they chose to replace the footswitches is anybody's guess.  Regardless, I wouldn't expect any changes to the Helix hardware anytime soon unless their hand is forced again. Once production is tooled-up, changing the recipe costs money. Without a compelling reason to do so, it really isn't in their be$t intere$t... and I seriously doubt that an incrementally "better" chip that wouldn't make a noticeable difference for the vast majority of users would qualify as a good enough reason. If the current "brain" becomes unavailable again, OK... otherwise, it's a waste.  2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kevin-M 24 Posted October 18, 2019 One thing that might make sense for new hardware is if they go down the path of polyphonic synth/pitch shift and the current processors can’t keep up 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cruisinon2 2,599 Posted October 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Kevin-M said: One thing that might make sense for new hardware is if they go down the path of polyphonic synth/pitch shift and the current processors can’t keep up  Fair enough... and that would certainly be a compelling reason. However there's one absolute certainty that would go along with that: legions of royally pissed Helix owners who'd have to either pony up for a new unit, or forego polyphonic pitch shifting. It would be a PR nightmare... so I'm gonna vote "no" on that too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phil_m 4,544 Posted October 18, 2019 5 minutes ago, Kevin-M said: One thing that might make sense for new hardware is if they go down the path of polyphonic synth/pitch shift and the current processors can’t keep up  Not going to be an issue... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HonestOpinion 944 Posted October 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, phil_m said:  Not going to be an issue...  Hmm, that looks like a breadcrumb. Sounds like you have been playing with polyphony toys in beta. Seems promising as DI was talking about this potentially coming to the Helix months ago. :-) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kilrahi 488 Posted October 18, 2019 2 hours ago, phil_m said:  Not going to be an issue...  Prove it I say!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cruisinon2 2,599 Posted October 18, 2019 And the rumor mill grinds into action once again... let the blind guessing and wishful thinking commence! ;) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OmniFace 136 Posted October 18, 2019 4 hours ago, cruisinon2 said:  The DSP bit wasn't L6's idea, as I recall... the old chip that ran the 500's was no longer available, so they were forced into an "upgrade". Why they chose to replace the footswitches is anybody's guess.  Regardless, I wouldn't expect any changes to the Helix hardware anytime soon unless their hand is forced again. Once production is tooled-up, changing the recipe costs money. Without a compelling reason to do so, it really isn't in their be$t intere$t... and I seriously doubt that an incrementally "better" chip that wouldn't make a noticeable difference for the vast majority of users would qualify as a good enough reason. If the current "brain" becomes unavailable again, OK... otherwise, it's a waste.   Ah interesting to know.  You're probably correct that they have not compelling interest to upgrade without running out of supplies.  Too bad. I'd like to see one with more power, because it would be handy to run more than one musician through it. You can now, but the options are pretty limited for the signal chain. If I could run a full rig in Path A and another in Path B that'd be pretty sweet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kilrahi 488 Posted October 18, 2019 16 minutes ago, guitars69 said:  Ah interesting to know.  You're probably correct that they have not compelling interest to upgrade without running out of supplies.  Too bad. I'd like to see one with more power, because it would be handy to run more than one musician through it. You can now, but the options are pretty limited for the signal chain. If I could run a full rig in Path A and another in Path B that'd be pretty sweet.  Maybe. The thing is though, we always want MORE. Any processor created will always be able to have more power for one user than if it's split between two users. Historically, what two users can do with a Helix now is pretty crazy (each can have their own amp block, reverb, delay, modulation, wah, compression AND distortion and in most traditional cases they won't max out the DSP).  However, BECAUSE we've seen how crazy one user can get with the Helix, we automatically wish that two people could do the same. For the next generation processor the same thing is likely to happen. You'll still feel like two users are limited, even if it's more advanced than what 99% of guitar players have done for decades. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cruisinon2 2,599 Posted October 19, 2019 7 hours ago, guitars69 said:  Ah interesting to know.  You're probably correct that they have not compelling interest to upgrade without running out of supplies.  Too bad. I'd like to see one with more power, because it would be handy to run more than one musician through it. You can now, but the options are pretty limited for the signal chain. If I could run a full rig in Path A and another in Path B that'd be pretty sweet.  Fighting over footswitches on the same device with another overly picky, tone obsessed guitar player? I'll pass... let the other guy buy his own gear.  Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lungho 71 Posted October 19, 2019 23 hours ago, guitars69 said: Too bad. I'd like to see one with more power, because it would be handy to run more than one musician through it.  Two musicians falling all over each other to access one pedal board? No thank you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
antonio1961 19 Posted October 19, 2019 On 10/18/2019 at 10:50 PM, guitars69 said:  Ah interesting to know.  You're probably correct that they have not compelling interest to upgrade without running out of supplies.  Too bad. I'd like to see one with more power, because it would be handy to run more than one musician through it. You can now, but the options are pretty limited for the signal chain. If I could run a full rig in Path A and another in Path B that'd be pretty sweet. The term "Analysis paralysis" springs to mind here, .. i think that the options are pretty wide and varied for two guitarists . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites