Apologies if this issue has been discussed elsewhere. I have been using the helix looper alongside a Boss Rc 3 looper (which allows you to save and store recorded loops). So this has allowed me to build a loop on the helix from various presets, stop the loop, change preset, switch to the rc3 to play a pre-recorded loop and then return to my helix constructed loop and add to it further. In this way I've been able to construct ideas in a live situation with a little more structure and va