dawes1986 Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 Hi gang, It seems the Helix Rack's looper can't stop playback and start a new recording whilst in playback mode unless it receives a stop-playback MIDI CC message first. It also seems the stop-playback message needs to be received 20-21ms before the start-recording message, otherwise the latter is sometimes/often not acknowledged. Is there any way to have the start-recording function override and force playback to stop? Or alternatively is there an adjustable setting that'll make the Helix process the pair of stop/start of messages quicker? I'm looking for immediacy with this so I can emulate glitching effects. Sending the two messages within 15-20ms is useable yet unreliable, and anything under 15ms registers only the stop-playback message, leaving the start-recording message overlooked. Anything above 21ms is consistently reliable, but the latency is off-putting. What are my options? Cheers! Dawes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rd2rk Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 If you're playing back a loop and want to start a NEW loop, you first have to erase the old loop. To do that you have to stop playback, then send RECORD again. No way around it. I tried with my FCB1010 which can send two successive CCs, didn't work. You appear to be right about there needing to be a pause between messages. There are ways to do it - BOME MIDI Translator, BOME BOX or MIDI Solutions Event Processor for use without a computer attached - , but no way I can see to do it without add-ons. What are you using now to send the MIDI? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dawes1986 Posted December 21, 2019 Author Share Posted December 21, 2019 Thanks, man. Currently using Max/MSP to send the timed MIDI CC's from my laptop via USB. I have a Morningstar MC6 which can make use of an optional delay between it's CC messages but unfortunately it can't select a time between 0 and 100, so the 20-21ms pause–not ideal to begin with–is made way worse there. The BOME and MIDI Solutions look cool, and thank you for suggesting them, but I'm disinclined as I usually run an AxeFx anyway, upon which the glitch effect has so far worked perfectly. Nice to know I'm not the only one who's tried it with the Helix. What a shame to know there's no way to change it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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