Hey_Joe 272 Posted December 31, 2019 Can anyone of you good people share your experience with regretting not buying the PC+ instead of the plain PC? I have read all the specs and definitely know the differences between the 2 model's abilities on paper. But are there any real life anecdotal experiences of regret not buying the PC+. I am using a Headrush108 now but I want to experience the amp in the room feeling. I'm not sure if I can live without the extra speaker sims and L6link/midi, extra speakers and update capabilities of a PC+. With a plain PC I can experience what I get with the Headrush but will also get the amp in the room from speaker sims and that's all I really need. My HelixLT should give me plenty of control of the parameters. I am not using it live or plan to at this point in time. Will I really regret not spending the extra $300 on the plus - (of course no one can really answer that question for ME, I am just looking for advice based on your personal experience if you felt the need to upgrade to the PLUS and why. Or, was it a no brainer and you just knew the PC+ was where it's at from the start)? Thanks in advance, Hey_Joe Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tooloudtoobad 7 Posted January 2, 2020 they will both do the same thing sound wise, But you cant switch between the different speaker types or to FRFR mode from the helix on a preset or snapshot without getting the Powercab Plus. So if you have a Helix The Plus is the only way to go... Unles you like the same speaker selection for all your presets and snapshots...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hey_Joe 272 Posted January 2, 2020 Thanks for your perspective tooloudtoobad. As only a studio player these days, I guess for a $300 savings I could get off my butt and switch the PC to one of the only six speaker types if I want a change. Seems like a PLUS is the key to take full advantage of all the Helix's capabilities. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tooloudtoobad 7 Posted January 3, 2020 Helix sounds great with IR's thru studio monitors...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hey_Joe 272 Posted January 3, 2020 Thanks for the feedback. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
talonmm 35 Posted January 13, 2020 So, if I am 100% happy with my individual helix tones, and do not wish to modify them playing live, then the Powercab 112 will be fine? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tooloudtoobad 7 Posted January 13, 2020 Yes it will be fine you can switch the powercab on the back, I bought the powercabs so I would have a good stage volume for gigs, at the house I could be happy playing thru my Studio monitors but I do play thru the powercabs at the house. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
talonmm 35 Posted January 14, 2020 thanks! Many pc + users have complained that the pc + comes set up with a huge negative db setting, that makes the amp out-of-the-box set at a lower volume. Since the pc standard does not have editing capabilities, can anyone confirm that pc standard amps are not set with a low db setting and should not have the loudness issue that pc + users have complained about? thanks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jeremyjh 0 Posted January 19, 2020 On 1/14/2020 at 7:37 AM, talonmm said: Since the pc standard does not have editing capabilities, can anyone confirm that pc standard amps are not set with a low db setting and should not have the loudness issue that pc + users have complained about? I have a Powercab 112 standard. I don't have any problem with volume as long as I hit the input with a line-level signal (at least -16db to sound good; -12db should probably be preferred). That is not a problem for most effects platforms but for low-end ones it can be; for example I have a Mooer GE 150 and it seems to only support instrument level output...if you boost everything you can get to -16db but a clean sound won't get there without external help. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slarry 0 Posted January 22, 2020 On 1/13/2020 at 4:54 AM, talonmm said: So, if I am 100% happy with my individual helix tones, and do not wish to modify them playing live, then the Powercab 112 will be fine? Yes for sure. I use the pc on the flat setting, I already have cab settings on the pedal. Some of the tones I have set don't even use a cab setting, just the head. It sounds awesome... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
talonmm 35 Posted January 22, 2020 7 hours ago, Slarry said: Yes for sure. I use the pc on the flat setting, I already have cab settings on the pedal. Some of the tones I have set don't even use a cab setting, just the head. It sounds awesome... thanks for the reply. Somehow it turns out, after getting the pc standard - it was not loud enough. I manually went into each tone and set each one louder by about 7 db. that seemed to help. I am also going to use a tc mini spark. From the output from the pedal board (which includes the hx-stomp) right into the booster and then into the powercab. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tooloudtoobad 7 Posted January 23, 2020 you can also go to global settings and go to volume knob controls and switch it from multi to 1/4...... I am using L6 Link cable to my PC's so as long as i dont have it on multi or digital its alot louder...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
talonmm 35 Posted January 23, 2020 there is no l6 link or editing capabilities on the PC standard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tooloudtoobad 7 Posted January 23, 2020 whatever connection type he is using can be turned off to the Big knob...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jeremyjh 0 Posted January 23, 2020 17 hours ago, talonmm said: thanks for the reply. Somehow it turns out, after getting the pc standard - it was not loud enough. I manually went into each tone and set each one louder by about 7 db. that seemed to help. I am also going to use a tc mini spark. From the output from the pedal board (which includes the hx-stomp) right into the booster and then into the powercab. I just got my Mini Spark last night and it works great, it definitely boosts the volume from my Mooer 150 to the range it needs to be and doesn't add perceptible noise or color. I set it at 10:00 and forget about it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
