WildNiteRecords Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 Hi guys, I am new to helix, Recently tried FRFR and wasn't sold on the sound for what Im doing. I want to use 4cm to my Mesa Boogie rectifier and I have hooked it all up. I set my commands up to change the channels of the amp VIA ext amp. I am experiencing tone suck which I can't get to the bottom of... The amp sounds cleanish on the dirty channel And also if I put FX after the loop (In screenshot pictured) the effects don't work at all? they work before the input signal but not after nothing at all. My Mesa has a serial loop could this be causing this? It only has a switch that says bypass or FX loop My global settings are (guitar pad) off (1/4 outputs - Line) (Instrument - Send return 1) and (Instrument - Send return 2) Basically all I want to do is be able to run effect before and after the amp... And use snapshots to make the helix change my amp channels between them Sorry if I sound silly there is probably a simple fix but Im really wanting to get it all up and running Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rd2rk Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 Check your wiring. 4cm: Guitar>Helix Input>Effects>FX Loop 1 Block>Helix Send 1>Amp Input>Amp FX Loop Send>Helix Return 1>Effects>Helix Left/Mono Out>Amp FX Loop Return Make sure you're using the correct FX Loop Block for the Send/Return pair that you're using. Try setting Send/Return 1 to LINE. Send/Return 2 shouldn't even be involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildNiteRecords Posted January 23, 2020 Author Share Posted January 23, 2020 I've since sorted some of the issues... I now have a phasing issue on the amp but everything else works great. My mix is on 100% on the fx loop block My 4cm is guitar into helix, - 1/4 output to Amps return,- Amp input into send 1 - and return 1 to amp fx loop send I have no modulation effects. The snapshots change my amp channels fine its just the weird phaser sound especially in the dirty channel Thank you for your reply! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyInNashua Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 It sounds like you already figured it out, but I thought I would share my 4CM schematic. I did this schematic for my TubeMeister 18 which includes a Cab Sim circuit for direct to FOH, but you can just ignore that. I think it helps to have a visual of what is going on. I know it helped me. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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