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HX Stomp Issues with External Drive and Boost Effects

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Hi! This is my first post in the forums and I'm a somewhat new HX Stomp user. I have used the M9 in a similar setup but upgraded to the stomp for added versatility of running direct in live and studio situations. For me, the Stomp is mostly taking care of time-based and modulation effects. My typical setup is tuner > compressor > overdrive > boost > hx stomp. From there, I either run the stomp direct to the PA (being careful to change the output to line level) or into the front of my Deluxe Reverb (with instrument level output impedance). So far, everything sounds great except when I engage my Katana Boost.

 

I typically run boosts after overdrives to give me more volume for leads. When not using the stomp, engaging a boost after an overdrive gives me more volume for solos. When running into the input of the stomp, however, I have found that engaging a boost actually results in more compression and less volume. For context, I do not use any of the HX stomp overdrive models and my input impedance is set for instrument level. I've tried three different overdrive pedals (Nobels ODR-1, Tube Screamer, and Wampler Euphoria) and the boosts I've tried after the drives (all with the same results) are the Keeley Katana, Fulltone 2B boost, and Xotic EP Booster. With each of these, no matter how high I turn the volume (without any extra gain stages after the boost), the resulting sound to the amp or the board is more compressed and lower in volume. I removed my compressor and tuner from the signal chain and tested my patch cables to try to isolate the issue to just my overdrives, boosts, and stomp. No matter the combination of boost after overdrive, the result is the same.

 

To ensure it's not an issue with my amp, I further isolated my boost / overdrive pedals and bypassed the stomp entirely. When I engage the boost after the overdrive directly into the amp, the sound is what I would expect - still overdriven but with more volume. Once the stomp enters the signal chain and I engage the boost pedal after the overdrive, the volume drops. It's as if the stomp is unable to accommodate the additional output from the boost and the overdrive. I would expect this to happen if I were running a boost into an overdrive but it seems odd when running a boost after an overdrive. I should also note that I have tried this same setup with in both analog and DSP bypass. I have also changed the global EQ to have a few dB extra output at the end of the stomp's six blocks with the same results. This also occurs whether or not any of my other blocks on the stomp are engaged.

 

As I said, I am new to the forum. And if there is already a topic on this, please point me in that direction. Any theories / help would be appreciated. 

 

Andrew

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Can't tell you why it works that way. The solution is to put your Boost pedal AFTER the stomp, or in the FX Loop after the Stomp's amp. Or, just use a Stomp button or Snapshot to boost the Output Block Level.

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You could go to one of the settings in the Cab model, and setup a snap shot for like a +6 db boost. This would be after the amp model...

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It could be the output level on the stomp is too low. You may have to got through Global settings and see what your output lvl is.

 

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