paulgshaw Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 Where do these new meters live please?.....anyone know....I can’t find them.....Cheers, Paul... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsvette12 Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulgshaw Posted April 22, 2020 Author Share Posted April 22, 2020 Hi...thanks...this vid seems be about compression level meters....I’m looking for the overall,output meters...... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsvette12 Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 Thats all there this is in this update - confused me also Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xmacvicar Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 They are in the output block Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaronlyon Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 Yes, this. Highlight the Output block, and you will see the meters. I love this feature, especially for the 3-band compressor (LA Studio Comp? I'm not in front of my Helix). The meters revealed that my settings were compressing the mid band only, with no effect on the high or low bands. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willjrock Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 Click on your output block and then look at the helix. Click on your compressor block then look at the helix. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulgshaw Posted April 22, 2020 Author Share Posted April 22, 2020 Many thanks to all....all good and sorted... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HonestOpinion Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 2 hours ago, aaronlyon said: Yes, this. Highlight the Output block, and you will see the meters. I love this feature, especially for the 3-band compressor (LA Studio Comp? I'm not in front of my Helix). The meters revealed that my settings were compressing the mid band only, with no effect on the high or low bands. Agree 100%! Incredibly helpful to have this for the '3-Band Comp' although you are right in that you can also use it potentially to see how the 'Emphasis' setting is impacting the 'LA Studio Comp' as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfster Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 Have to say I'm very disappointed with the meters. Just two bars on the display, and not even a mark or any dashes to show the user what level you're at (-18dbfs etc). Why didn't they incorporate it into hx edit? It baffles me..... Seems like that would be the best place for the meters as they are useful for setting up proper gain staging, and that naturally relates to recording using a computer. Anyway, rant over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brue58ski Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 7 minutes ago, Wolfster said: Have to say I'm very disappointed with the meters. Just two bars on the display, and not even a mark or any dashes to show the user what level you're at (-18dbfs etc). Why didn't they incorporate it into hx edit? It baffles me..... Seems like that would be the best place for the meters as they are useful for setting up proper gain staging, and that naturally relates to recording using a computer. Anyway, rant over. I agree. I also wonder if these are eventually going to make it into HX Edit which is what I use mainly to create patches. It's difficult for me to see the meters on the Helix from my current setup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xmacvicar Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 I agree too. I get that everyone advocates that you really have to level patches by ear and that's even joked about in the name of the release for this particular firmware - however I'm not sure what the meter's tell me at all in its current iteration Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themetallikid Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 Could be some sort of visual lag, which may also be a hold up for a tuner option? Just thoughts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunpointmetal Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 They probably didn't put numbers on them so people don't start trying to level everything to a certain dB and then wondering why everything doesn't sound the same volume. All I need to know is if I'm clipping or not at the I/O and the compressor meters work just fine for noting where/when the device is working. I do think they should be in the Edit app, though. Having it hooked up to my computer to build patches and I have to keep sliding my tray in and out to see the meters on the floor is a PITA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gf_rtmd30 Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 On 4/22/2020 at 8:20 AM, aaronlyon said: Yes, this. Highlight the Output block, and you will see the meters. Oh those knuckleheads! I bought a Helix when they were first introduced, then sold it, and am back now, and I remembered there was a meter, but it seems to me it was available in the editor and one of the global displays (maybe), and couldn't find it when I went looking for it this time around. I found one in the compressor a couple days ago, but the one in the output block escaped me. It's a useful place for them to have stored it though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gf_rtmd30 Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 On 4/23/2020 at 9:13 AM, Wolfster said: Have to say I'm very disappointed with the meters. Just two bars on the display, and not even a mark or any dashes to show the user what level you're at (-18dbfs etc). Why didn't they incorporate it into hx edit? It baffles me..... Seems like that would be the best place for the meters as they are useful for setting up proper gain staging, and that naturally relates to recording using a computer. Anyway, rant over. Why not in the editor? It beats up the USB when they're shooting that information across the cable. Imagine if someone was recording and had the compressor or output block selected and HX Edit open.... Line 6 could do it, but I think they're trying to be kinder and gentler and avoid those tech reports that the sound had latency when the meters were displayed. We all love flashing lights and meters wiggling but we don't need them when we're recording or performing, only when we're getting set up to do those things. I mean, seriously, why do we need meters when we have cell-phones? We can look at the phone instead when we have a couple measures free to do nothing, then stick it back in a pocket with the screen lit up and make the audience wonder WTF!?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malhavok Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 On 4/23/2020 at 9:13 AM, Wolfster said: Why didn't they incorporate it into hx edit? HX Edit never processes audio so the meters would just show zero all the time. Yes, programmers can eventually write enough code to make just about anything work but we're probably talking about a ground-up re-write of the editor to make this happen. I'm not claiming they'll never do it. I'm only giving my "armchair guess" as to why they didn't do it at this time. I agree it would be pretty cool to have them in there. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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