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In the past few months I've been trying to really get back in the swing of playing guitar again and trying to learn more about effects, chains, all kinds of fun stuff. I bought the HD500x, and I've been getting a lot more comfortable with understanding the interface and experimenting with the different effects looking for the best tone to play with my team. What I wanted to learn about here is why someone might use the dual amp feature instead of just a single amp. Obviously it's about finding creating the right tone, but I was curious of any existing resources on the benefits of using mixed dual amps or perhaps two of the same amps. Thanks in advance!

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17 minutes ago, josephship434 said:

why someone might use the dual amp

 

the 'why' is simple.... because we can. 

 

Beyond that; 

many people use a clean/dirty setup. instead of changing patches or fx on/off, they simply switch amps. although, this usually also involves a dual path, not just a dual amp. 

 

everything else, as you already figured out, would be about tone

 

 

 

 

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That helps, because I haven't looked into experimenting with dual paths. You know of any good artists or youtube channels or whatever that helps educate people on stuff like this?

14 minutes ago, pianoguyy said:

this usually also involves a dual path, not just a dual amp. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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There are many guitarists who use 2 amps live, eg one that is particularly good for clean sounds like a twin reverb, and one particularly good for distorted ones like a marshall plexi.
In the POD, putting 2 mutually exclusive different amps in a single patch (instead of 2 dedicated patches) is useful to avoid completely the lag time that would occur instead when changing patches.


Another possible good reason to use 2 amps in one patch is that very often in recording studios is used to place in front of a cab speaker 2 different and complementary microphones such as the bright SM57 with the warm Royer 121 and mix their signals to get the ideal sound. Unfortunately in the POD it is not possible to combine 2 different microphones for the same cab/speaker, and therefore the only way is to use 2 equal amps with the same cab/speaker but different microphone.

 

Finally, combining different amps is a way to create new amp sounds not otherwise obtainable with just one. If you like, it is a way to multiply the loaves and fishes.

 

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One more:

 

I am the only guitarist in my band.

 

You can start a song by using amp1 and switch on amp2 at a point - so you simulate a second guitarist starts playing now (the same accords).

You should pan right / left for this effect.

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2 hours ago, RonSom1976 said:

You can start a song by using amp1 and switch on amp2 at a point - so you simulate a second guitarist starts playing now (the same accords).

You should pan right / left for this effect.

 

Are you asking if it is possible or are you making a statement telling us that it is?

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josephship434 

asked what can you do with two amps in a preset - this is on way.

 

I use it when I play When I come around by Greenday - Intro only one amp - after the drum-break/Bassguitar-Fill-In both amps

 

 

(I don't pan it hard - it's not to flash the audience - but the sound is different  - kind of just nice - no science)

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Ah--josephship434--I thought you started the thread for some reason! Ha!

 

On 6/29/2020 at 6:41 AM, josephship434 said:

That helps, because I haven't looked into experimenting with dual paths. You know of any good artists or youtube channels or whatever that helps educate people on stuff like this?

 

I don't know of any YouTube channels, but here is the way I've done what Ronsom1976 is talking about:

  1. Create a dual amp patch with one amp model on "PATH A" and another on "PATH B"--leave both amp models on --> POD HD500X Edit Pilot's Guide 3-7 English Rev B.
  2. Go to the MIXER view: pan "PATH A" hard left and "PATH B" hard right --> POD HD500X Edit Pilot's Guide 4-1 English Rev B.
  3. Go to the AMPS view and dial in each amp models' settings & volume levels
  4. Go to the CONTROLLERS view  --> POD HD500X Edit Pilot's Guide 5-1 English Rev B.
  5. In the MODEL list select the amp on path B
  6. In the FS ASSIGN list choose the footswitch you want to use to turn Amp Model B on and off
  7. Go to the AMPS view, turn the amp model in Path B off, and set the "CH VOL" knob to 0%
  8. Test the footswitch you selected--it should turn the amp in Path B on/off and toggle the channel volume from 0% to where you previously programmed it

 

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