wlaycook Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 Hey guys, I'm tweaking a preset right now to add space for a few more front-end effects. Basically, my thought process was just to move the amp/cab (and post-amp effects) to signal path 2A. Sounds simple right? Well, for some reason, when I do this, my signal is significantly duller / less level. I'm literally just moving pre-existing blocks below, so I don't see why anything should change...Can you guys look at the below and tell me if I'm missing something? Thanks... Original Preset / Signal Chain New Signal Path (Why does this seemingly have less output than the above? All settings are constant for each FX...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rvroberts Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 Well assuming every setting is identical, then it should sound identical. I've done similar reorganisations myself, and not noticed a difference - but I can't say I A/B'd them to test. You have been careful regarding same speakers/mic placement? - and the cabs are in the same places? No pedal assignments (except the volume). The volume is the same profile? If so, you have discovered a bug I'd say. Be worth just placing the amp and cabs (no other units in the paths) in path one and path 2 and seeing if there is a noticeable difference? A simple test I've never done. Then if it was identical, you could slowly rebuild and see if you can find where it's coming from? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schmalle Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 Are splits and mixers before / after the cabs the same? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaycook Posted March 11, 2021 Author Share Posted March 11, 2021 10 minutes ago, Schmalle said: Are splits and mixers before / after the cabs the same? Bingo...I swear I had looked at those at least a dozen times before posting, but turns out the merge block for the second path has been defaulting to "inverted" for B Polarity. Flipping it back to "normal" solved the problem. Not sure why it defaults to inverted though - any clues, out of curiosity? Also, the black/white color combo (especially when not looking at the old merge settings) made it difficult to tell immediately which setting was active. No big deal though. Thanks guys. I've been playing with this thing for 8 hours this evening. Time to give it a break for the night... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datacommando Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, wlaycook said: Why does this seemingly have less output than the above? Hi, I have seen this discussed previously way back in 2016, and the general consensus of opinion is that an A/B split results in a 3db variation in signal when merged again. The merge block is where this happens. This is that thread. This is a piece of research that forum user “”perapera” did a while back. Hope this helps/makes sense. Edited March 11, 2021 by datacommando Text alt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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