Pod Go volume output knob and tone

[OmegaSlayer]

I live in a flat in a household, so I can't crank my gear a lot (Peavey Bandit 112 80W), volume is at 1 and it's already very loud, so I need to keep the Pod volume knob at 9 o'clock or less

I would have liked to know from your experience if and how much the volume affects the tone, because if it is so, I think I'll have to remove some decibels from the output of my patches and turn the volume knob up

But as you might figure, it's something I can't do on trial and error in respect of my neighbours and also because the more I age, the less I can stand high volume output

Thanks for the help

[spaceatl]

Channel Volume has no effect. Neither does the POD volume knob. The volume setting that affects tone is in the AMP Block and is called Master...With most amps that have it, the amount of saturation will increase with it turned up...It does affect the volume a little bit, but the tone changes with it...You are getting into an area of psycho-acoustics if you are trying to preserve some sort of notion of perceived loudness at a low playback level (SPL)....If you know what your min an max SPL is approximately, you could got thru the patches and rebalance them by reducing the channel volume only....This would give you more play in POD volume knob and less MAX potential...It take some time to do this and a lot of back and forth to get things leveled.

[OmegaSlayer]

15 hours ago, spaceatl said:

Channel Volume has no effect. Neither does the POD volume knob. The volume setting that affects tone is in the AMP Block and is called Master...With most amps that have it, the amount of saturation will increase with it turned up...It does affect the volume a little bit, but the tone changes with it...You are getting into an area of psycho-acoustics if you are trying to preserve some sort of notion of perceived loudness at a low playback level (SPL)....If you know what your min an max SPL is approximately, you could got thru the patches and rebalance them by reducing the channel volume only....This would give you more play in POD volume knob and less MAX potential...It take some time to do this and a lot of back and forth to get things leveled.

Thanks for the info

Anyway, I think you mean the patch level at the end of the signal, because often the channel volume on the amp is before some effects in the line signal, and those can have the mix/level parameters that can increase or decrease the output

[spaceatl]

On 3/24/2021 at 3:27 AM, OmegaSlayer said:

Thanks for the info

Anyway, I think you mean the patch level at the end of the signal, because often the channel volume on the amp is before some effects in the line signal, and those can have the mix/level parameters that can increase or decrease the output

No, I actually mean channel volume. You are right, the signal to post/downstream FX would be increased or reduced. The mix of those FX is not affected. But you are right, with some FX there could be a subtle response change...I think primarily of Tape Echo where there is some saturation. In that case, you might need to do something downstream to compensate. My main point in mentioning the channel volume is that it does not tonally affect the amp model...

[OmegaSlayer]

On 3/25/2021 at 9:53 PM, spaceatl said:

No, I actually mean channel volume. You are right, the signal to post/downstream FX would be increased or reduced. The mix of those FX is not affected. But you are right, with some FX there could be a subtle response change...I think primarily of Tape Echo where there is some saturation. In that case, you might need to do something downstream to compensate. My main point in mentioning the channel volume is that it does not tonally affect the amp model...

Yeah, the amp tone stays the same but to my ears if you have EQs past the channel volume of the amp and you tweak the volume, you'll have to address the EQs too