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Using The Hd500 Within The Efx Loop Of Amp

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Hi,

 

Normally i just bring the HD500 into the efx loop return and everyting is fine....

 

I was doing a litte experimenting by putting the HD500 within the amps loop....  so it looks like this...

 

Guitar - compressor pedal- eq pedal... amp input...  amp efx send to -  HD500 guitar input - HD500 output  to - amp efx return.

 

So everything is the same as before ... only now .. instead of the guitar supplying the input directly to the HD500... its being supplied by the amp efx out.....

 

What I am trying to do is to see if .... I can use the amp as the primary ... and the HD500 as the secondary... meaning use the tone of the amp as the main tone... and in those times the HD500 is set to a patch that has no amp model selected.. just an EQ... with a little gain...

 

Then when I want an amp model .. I set the amp to the clean chanel... and then pick another patch on the HD500 that has an amp model ...    This is I guess the opposite of the usual 4cm method where the HD500 is the main tone generator.. and by picking a patch with a fxloop it sends the signal out to the amp and back to the HD500....   This is kind of the opposite ... using the amp mainly for tone.. and the HD500 in the amps fx loop when I want a amp model.....

 

WHat I am getting when I do that is a - distant, fizzy, echoey sound on all patches in the HD500... 

 

So I guess the question is .. is there a setting that I am missing.... ?  When I take the HD500 out of the fx loop the amp sounds normal.. a little Blackstar HT-5... 

 

Maybe something to do with levels?  as now the HD500 is getting its input out of the amps preamp where as before it was getting it from the guitar and a couple of pedals...

 

Oh, lollipop.. I just remembered  that the Input on the HD500 is set to Guitar...  I guess maybe it should be set to aux?

 

I'll try that now... but please comment...

 

 

 

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Everything is fine... reset everything and its working...

 

But on that note...  Put the DT amps on the side for a minute...   I'm using a blackstar ht5...  At some point I'll spring for a new amp.....  presumably with a good tone on its own.....

 

So the thought would be to use the "new" amp as the main tone... and with the HD500 in the loop and for the most part just passing the signal from my "new" amps preamp to the power amp...

 

When I want to change amp sounds... I put the new amp in clean mode with low gain and hit a different patch on the HD500 for the new amp model ....

 

Does anybody do it this way....?    

 

The 4cm cable mettod with the Blackstar HT-5 ... with the HT-5 preamp hanging off the efx loop of the HD500...  sort of puts the HD500 as the primary...which is fine because the HT-5 is a relatively inexpensive amp....

 

But what if I drop some larger coin on a better  amp....?  It seems I would be making more use of the amps preamp if I put the HD500 in the amps loop and use it when I want something different ...

 

I guess it comes down to ... "What do you want to run the show?"   THe amp or the HD500....If one drops a large amount of dollars on a new amp... that is sort oif implying that they like the tone of "that" amp....  and to then use the HD500 as the "primary" into the new amps effects loop return... bypassing the new amps preamp... is kind of a waste of money... don't you think?       Is anybody else at that point where they are considering a new "dream" amp... and are wrestling with how to incorporate the 500 into their overall strategy....?

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I am using a JTV69s+HD500 directly XLR'ed to PA, no amp.
Before I used a Fender Prosonic Custom Shop, 4CM'ed to the HD500 with a 1972 Strat (c attached foto).
However, since i bought the JTV69s, the 72 strat+fender prosonic custom shop tube amp+many other tube amps+analogue equipment are now decommissioned.

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