Paulzx Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 Hello All, Just wondered if there was a definitive way to use the Helix with a DT50 now? I have seen it mentioned that you need to update the amp to the latest version, but does that allow for the Link cable to be used, or is it more complicated? My aim would be to turn off the amp and cab sims in the Helix and just have the effects running through the amp, which I assume would be the best way to do it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverhead Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 Yes, you would need to update the amp firmware to enable full control of amp model selection and parameter settings from a Helix preset. You would also benefit from using a program called DT Edit (a free non-Line 6 product) though it’s not necessary. I think you may also need midi cables; I’m not sure this is done via L6 Link. If you’re not planning to use the Helix amp/cab modeling you might find that the HX FX product is more suited to your needs. My son-in-law has an HX FX a with a DT-25 amp. I helped him set it up for full amp control using midi, 4CM, and HX FX presets. It works very well. I’m sure the same capabilities are in the Helix device. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverhead Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 I wrote a little reference document for my son-in-law at the time. It’s written in the first person and directed at him. It’s not to be considered official Line 6 documentation in any way, and parts of it may in fact be wrong. It also references some companion work that I did both on his computer and on his HX FX device. Obviously nobody else has this stuff but I think it’s sufficiently well described that it can be recreated. Some readers may find it useful so I attach it here for your reading pleasure! Questions for clarification will be accepted. Criticism will be ignored. If you find it helpful, great. If not move on. HX:DT - ReadMe.docx 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulzx Posted December 31, 2021 Author Share Posted December 31, 2021 On 12/17/2021 at 1:57 PM, silverhead said: I wrote a little reference document for my son-in-law at the time. It’s written in the first person and directed at him. It’s not to be considered official Line 6 documentation in any way, and parts of it may in fact be wrong. It also references some companion work that I did both on his computer and on his HX FX device. Obviously nobody else has this stuff but I think it’s sufficiently well described that it can be recreated. Some readers may find it useful so I attach it here for your reading pleasure! Questions for clarification will be accepted. Criticism will be ignored. If you find it helpful, great. If not move on. HX:DT - ReadMe.docx 14.57 kB · 3 downloads Excellent, thanks, I'll take a look. I'm currently running my Helix through some Yamaha HS7 FR monitors and I do like them, however, I have got a DT50 which is just sat in the corner of the room, I used it with the HD500 then sold it but kept the amp. I just got curious what it would sound like running the Helix with just it's effects, through the DT50.. an experiment really. I don't expect it to sound better than the monitor speakers, but if it did, that would be a nice problem to have! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobcoss Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 If you run the Helix and DT50 4cm, it's going to sound very good. I used to do that with my HX Effects and the DT25. Though the Helix has better preamp and amp sims than the HD amp sims in the DT50 so I just use the Helix amp models. Comparing my Helix using full amp models and line6 link to my DT25's blows away my going to my JBL monitors, and its even better than my powercab 112+ in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patriciogac Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 If you use Helix to DT50 via L6Link you could set the parameters on DT50 thru HxEdit. Saddly, some parameters are not accesibles via HxEdit, and when you use L6Link you lost the Midi connection with DT50. I think it is a bug need to be corrected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psarkissian Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 L6 Link and MIDI data are different, can't piggy back on one another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patriciogac Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 On 4/6/2022 at 12:21 PM, psarkissian said: L6 Link and MIDI data are different, can't piggy back on one another. I know. Can you try to use midi from Helix to DT50 when L6Link is connected please? I think is a bug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psarkissian Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 Haven't tried that myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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