tjbassoon Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 I've set up my Helix with a kind of traditional 4 cable method as a pedalboard for my Hughes & Kettner amp. My routing is as follows: first path: Guitar Input > Effects > output Send 1 into Amp Input lower path: Amp Send into Return 1 > Effects > output 1/4" into Amp Return This works great, and if I turn off all the effects and leave stuff essentially at zero I have the same volume and general tone as when I run Guitar > Amp without the Helix or effects loop. So I was curious when I went into the templates and found the 4 cable method template doesn't really do a traditional 4 cable method for effects chaining at all. It doesn't really have a place for you to put effects in the actual effects loop of the amp. Rather, it's there to allow you to bypass your amps preamp section all together, and instead use one of the Helix's modeled preamps. Pretty cool idea actually, as it allows you to use your cab and power amp section but basically have any preamp you want to test out. Makes for a versatile rig in principle. But the gain staging is totally off. If I set my actual H&K amp on the clean channel and put both gain and volume at 5, the preamp models in the Helix are often/usually very quiet, if not downright completely inaudible, unless I basically dime out the gain/channel/master volumes. Some of the amps will drive more, but most of them, like the Fender and Vox clones, are really too quiet to be usable, at least when compared to my actual preamp. So is this a limitation, bug, feature, ? of the amp models? Would the suggested compensation, should I choose to build presets with this in mind, be to really boost the send/return values on the FX Loop block of the Helix? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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