Helix pitch effects question

[Michi2199]

Hi everybody !

 

I am using currently HX Stomp and I really love how simple and dual pitch blocks sound ( which may be strange to some people ).

The reason is that they have no noticable latency or pre-delay. I recently compared it to Micro Pog and the Pog had a noticable lag ( compareable to Dual Pitch set with delay option to 20ms).  I know that polyphonic pitch shifters is all about latency vs preciseness and I love that not really precise ( when playing chords ) but very fast sound of HX Stomp pitch shifters. 

I use them only for octaves and only in monophonic way.

 

To the point - I look for a pedal for one of my pedalboards which would be very close to what HX Stomp Dual/Simple pitch sound like. Unfortunaetly I cannot put HX Stomp on my pedalboard due to the space limitations. Do you maybe know what pedal was those pitch shifters based on ? What pedal would be the closest ? 

I will be really grateful for help because I would die to get that tone on my pedalboard in one single pedal.

[silverhead]

Those models are Line 6 originals, meaning not based on any real world analog pedals.

[codamedia]

On 4/11/2022 at 11:56 AM, Michi2199 said:

I use them only for octaves and only in monophonic way.

 

If you only need 1 or 2 octaves DOWN.... then the BOSS Octave pedals might work for you. 

I have no suggestions if you need something simple that does an octave up.

[Michi2199]

On 4/11/2022 at 8:56 PM, codamedia said:

 

If you only need 1 or 2 octaves DOWN.... then the BOSS Octave pedals might work for you. 

I have no suggestions if you need something simple that does an octave up.

 

On 4/11/2022 at 7:16 PM, silverhead said:

Those models are Line 6 originals, meaning not based on any real world analog pedals.

Thank you for reply. Does Line 6 M5 contain the same single and dual pitch shifter ? That would be an ideal option.

[silverhead]

https://line6.com/support/manuals/m5

[kurtlorence]

I think I’m in the opposite camp of the OP -- I don't mind a little lag/delay, but I am quite disappointed in the tracking/preciseness of poly shifts (chords, more than one note). I’m a bassist, and often play chords, double-stops, etc. on jazz gigs. On my rock gigs, one sound I definitely need to emulate is the Pearl Jam 'Jeremy' 8-string sound. I could get a really good emulation with the E-H Pitchfork+.  I can get a similar sound on the Helix LT, but playing more than one note at a time - especially something other than  an octave - causes tracking glitches and wavering tones. It's actually pretty un-usable. Try playing the intro with the harmonics and you'll see what I mean.
Has anyone found a preset (or hopefully Line6 could try to emulate the Pitchfork+?) that offers better polyphonic tracking? I’m mostly successful on replacing my full pedalboard setup with the LT, all except for this one issue. But it’s an important one for me.

[phil_m]

On 5/27/2022 at 8:29 AM, kurtlorence said:

I think I’m in the opposite camp of the OP -- I don't mind a little lag/delay, but I am quite disappointed in the tracking/preciseness of poly shifts (chords, more than one note). I’m a bassist, and often play chords, double-stops, etc. on jazz gigs. On my rock gigs, one sound I definitely need to emulate is the Pearl Jam 'Jeremy' 8-string sound. I could get a really good emulation with the E-H Pitchfork+.  I can get a similar sound on the Helix LT, but playing more than one note at a time - especially something other than  an octave - causes tracking glitches and wavering tones. It's actually pretty un-usable. Try playing the intro with the harmonics and you'll see what I mean.
Has anyone found a preset (or hopefully Line6 could try to emulate the Pitchfork+?) that offers better polyphonic tracking? I’m mostly successful on replacing my full pedalboard setup with the LT, all except for this one issue. But it’s an important one for me.

I can see how the tracking would be off with bass chords. The Poly effects are not really optimized for that, and that’s probably a worse case scenario as far as tracking.