daveaphotopod Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 Please see attached screenshot. There are three rats. Yes, one is the mod. And yes, I know in the manual they reference that they updated the Rat, but didn't remove the old one because people still had it in their old presets. Ok, fine. But why the third one, and why is it in a different color? And to be clear, it's not just the Rat. Two Chandler tub drivers, two metal zones, two tube screamers. Am I missing something? (is there text that I am just reading over that explains this?) - unsure if anyone here knows, but if not, Id be curious to know from Line6 themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voxman55 Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 New Helix models (darker shading), Legacy models (lighter shading) - the manual does explain this. Older legacy models will use up less DSP and although there may be a very slight difference in tonal quality, most users won't notice. This gives some good options to have an effect you like but at a lower DSP cost giving you a bit more flexibility. Effects POD Go has nearly all the effects of the award-winning HX family of modelers, as well as selected effects from the classic DL4™, DM4™, MM4™, and FM4™ stompboxes and M13®, M9®, and M5® processors (indicated by the lighter shaded background rows within the following effects tables). Re the Rat, Line 6 discovered that the first Helix version was modelled on a faulty Rat, so they fixed it and added a 'correct' Helix version but they left the first version on as some folk liked it and had it in their presets. So you have 2 Helix versions and a legacy version of the Rat. It was covered in the release notes. Per v1.30 release notes ( https://line6.com/support/page/kb/pod/pod-go/pod-go-130-r986/ ) Distortion > Ratatouille Dist (Mono, Stereo), based on* the 1984 Pro Co RAT. Turns out our Vermin Dist model was broken. Sorry! We were going to replace it completely but a bunch of people had presets with the old version. On top of that, we found out our RAT's LM308 chip had crapped out since we modeled it last so we decided to get it into perfect working order and start from scratch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveaphotopod Posted September 23, 2022 Author Share Posted September 23, 2022 On 9/23/2022 at 1:49 PM, voxman55 said: New Helix models (darker shading), Legacy models (lighter shading) - the manual does explain this. Older legacy models will use up less DSP and although there may be a very slight difference in tonal quality, most users won't notice. This gives some good options to have an effect you like but at a lower DSP cost giving you a bit more flexibility. Effects POD Go has nearly all the effects of the award-winning HX family of modelers, as well as selected effects from the classic DL4™, DM4™, MM4™, and FM4™ stompboxes and M13®, M9®, and M5® processors (indicated by the lighter shaded background rows within the following effects tables). Re the Rat, Line 6 discovered that the first Helix version was modelled on a faulty Rat, so they added a 'correct' Helix version modelled from another Rat unit, but they left the first version on as some folk liked it and had it in their presets. It was covered in the release notes. Ah, I did miss it, apparently. Thank you for clarifying! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveaphotopod Posted September 23, 2022 Author Share Posted September 23, 2022 On 9/23/2022 at 1:49 PM, voxman55 said: New Helix models (darker shading), Legacy models (lighter shading) - the manual does explain this. Older legacy models will use up less DSP and although there may be a very slight difference in tonal quality, most users won't notice. This gives some good options to have an effect you like but at a lower DSP cost giving you a bit more flexibility. Effects POD Go has nearly all the effects of the award-winning HX family of modelers, as well as selected effects from the classic DL4™, DM4™, MM4™, and FM4™ stompboxes and M13®, M9®, and M5® processors (indicated by the lighter shaded background rows within the following effects tables). Re the Rat, Line 6 discovered that the first Helix version was modelled on a faulty Rat, so they added a 'correct' Helix version modelled from another Rat unit, but they left the first version on as some folk liked it and had it in their presets. It was covered in the release notes. Ah....it's not in all the manuals. I just did a search for it, copy/pasting what you entered above, and it's in the wireless manual but not the POD GO 1.40 manual. Interesting. Regardless, thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voxman55 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 On 9/23/2022 at 7:14 PM, daveaphotopod said: Ah....it's not in all the manuals. I just did a search for it, copy/pasting what you entered above, and it's in the wireless manual but not the POD GO 1.40 manual. Interesting. Regardless, thanks! To clarify, it is in ALL the Pod Go Owners Manuals, the latest of which is the Pod Go v1.20 Rev D and the subsequent Pod Go Wireless and Pod Go combined manual Rev D. There is no v1.40 Pod Go Manual. You are referring to the Pod Go EDIT Pilot's Guide v1.40 which is A guide to the features and functionality of the Line 6 POD Go Edit application and it assumes that users have first read the Pod Go manual. Hence it doesn't duplicate the fx model background - but as it is only a short descriptor and the Edit Pilot Guide does duplicate the FX model tables, perhaps Line 6 should add it to the Edit manuals too for consistency. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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