Borgelin79 Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 Hi, curious as to why there haven't been any updates to this product in so long? Same goes for the edit-software. No improvements / bug-fixes. Makes me worried Line 6 has abandoned it, and I really hope I'm wrong as this is not exactly a cheap product. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rd2rk Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 AFAICT you are correct, L6 has abandoned the Powercab line. Many of us who hang out on TGP in the D&M Forum periodically attempt to rattle their cage about it and have been doing so for the past two years. While support for Helix over there is excellent, with a number of L6 folks contributing regularly, no one will even admit that the Powercab line ever existed beyond saying "Not my job!" Please join us and add your voice to the resistance. It may in fact be hopeless, but I for one refuse to go quietly into the night! They don't OWE us improvements, but they DO owe us bug fixes! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PierM Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 Same story as with the FH1500; dropped in the market and abandoned. Be aware, Catalyst owners... ;) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rd2rk Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 On 12/4/2022 at 1:09 AM, PierM said: Be aware, Catalyst owners... ;) Fortunately, I have neither expectation of nor need for improvements, it works as advertised. For those who have such expectations/needs, yeah, be warned! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilrahi Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 I do wish they'd do a final update to squelch any persistent bugs, especially the ones using the L6 Link since that's a major selling point. That's really all I need in terms of support and updates. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oScaryG Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 Greetings, I just want to share that I have gotten THE BEST PC 112 Plus tones I have ever gotten by using 4 (four) new Impulse Responses from Sonic DNA. They are mono 48K, 200ms so compatible with the PC +. I've tried other IR's (by Cel, OH, Yrk, etc.) and these SDNA IR's are clearly much better for the PC + -IMHO. They're relatively cheap too so try one or two and you may thank me later. Cheers! OG https://sonic-dna.com/shop/ols/search?keywords=powercab&sortOption=descend_by_match Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amsdenj Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 I find using Powercab in Flat mode, using the LF RAW voicing with no cab model in Helix works very well. It eliminates the mic that’s in IRs and EQ in the speaker models to give a more natural, amp in the room sound. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeabbs67 Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 On 12/18/2022 at 12:23 PM, amsdenj said: I find using Powercab in Flat mode, using the LF RAW voicing with no cab model in Helix works very well. It eliminates the mic that’s in IRs and EQ in the speaker models to give a more natural, amp in the room sound. Are you bypassing cabs and mics in the Helix? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulTBaker Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 I also use the PC in Flat, LF Raw mode. I do not bypass the cabs and mics in the helix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rd2rk Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 On 12/21/2022 at 8:53 AM, mikeabbs67 said: Are you bypassing cabs and mics in the Helix? Sometimes, sometimes not. Whatever sounds best. ALWAYS! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amsdenj Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 I always bypass the cab blocks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borgelin79 Posted February 1, 2023 Author Share Posted February 1, 2023 On 12/4/2022 at 8:34 AM, rd2rk said: AFAICT you are correct, L6 has abandoned the Powercab line. Many of us who hang out on TGP in the D&M Forum periodically attempt to rattle their cage about it and have been doing so for the past two years. While support for Helix over there is excellent, with a number of L6 folks contributing regularly, no one will even admit that the Powercab line ever existed beyond saying "Not my job!" Please join us and add your voice to the resistance. It may in fact be hopeless, but I for one refuse to go quietly into the night! They don't OWE us improvements, but they DO owe us bug fixes! Well, that's truly a shame. I love my PC 212+, and I expect Line 6 to show some proper customer service and let us know what's going on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rd2rk Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 This is the latest word (posted on The Gear Page): Dec 12, 2022 There is an internal confluence page with specific things to be addressed and from what I understand, nearly all the feedback came from CS tickets, as well as this subforum. Not sure when we'll get to it (we have a LOT of irons in the fire right now), and legally I probably have to say "IF we get to it," but I've been assured that the right people are well informed and looking at things. Eric Klein, Chief Product Design Architect, Yamaha Guitar Group / Line 6 / Ampeg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PierM Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 Too slow pace, sloppy care for non-helix products. At this pace Hotone Audio will be the new L6 in few years. Their products, their energy and pace (and the capacity to really listen the userbase), reminds me of the Line 6 golder era. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulTBaker Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 I see what you are saying, however, I keep thinking of this great floor board I bought several years ago because I loved what it did then.... and then I find out the company put out FREE updates... and keeps on doing that!!!! To me that is awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PierM Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 On 2/1/2023 at 10:25 PM, PaulTBaker said: I see what you are saying, however, I keep thinking of this great floor board I bought several years ago because I loved what it did then.... and then I find out the company put out FREE updates... and keeps on doing that!!!! To me that is awesome. oh yeah, nothing to complain about Helix family. But almost everything else is being released and abandoned. This is Yamaha I know... :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john-callahan Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 Is anyone having bug issues with Powercabs? Mine has been working as advertised. I do only use it with AES connection to my Helix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rd2rk Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 On 3/3/2023 at 7:16 AM, john-callahan said: Is anyone having bug issues with Powercabs? Mine has been working as advertised. I do only use it with AES connection to my Helix. When controlling the PC212+ from presets over L6 Link it's randomly undependable. The randomness is likely the reason that support has trouble duplicating the issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PierM Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 On 3/3/2023 at 3:16 PM, john-callahan said: Is anyone having bug issues with Powercabs? Mine has been working as advertised. I do only use it with AES connection to my Helix. When I had the Floor and then Rack, I stopped using my two PC+112 via Link due random un-links at the boot of one of the two Powercabs (typically the last). That really looked like a bug to me as never happened with my old L2Ts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmniFace Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 On 3/3/2023 at 3:23 PM, PierM said: When I had the Floor and then Rack, I stopped using my two PC+112 via Link due random un-links at the boot of one of the two Powercabs (typically the last). That really looked like a bug to me as never happened with my old L2Ts. You mean this bug? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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